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[I'm A Plumber]

Let's discuss the hottest band in the land...KIϟϟ!

[Hey Man]

Feb 9, 2024 13:40:55 GMT -5 I'm A Plumber said:

Let's discuss the hottest band in the land...KIϟϟ!

If this was the real MTS - the thread would be let's discuss how much money Paul and Gene are making with two guys pretending to be Ace and Peter.

[kissoff]

Feb 9, 2024 13:40:55 GMT -5 I'm A Plumber said:

Let's discuss the hottest band in the land...KIϟϟ!

How's the life of a dog catcher.

[I'm A Plumber]

I'm no dogcatcher, silly man...I'm a PLUMBER!

[Steve]

I'll start.

Peter Criss sucks.

Rock And Roll Over and Love Gun are awful.

The drum solo ruins Alive and should never have been included.

2004-2008, while Paul could still sing, was better and more interesting to me than 1996-2000. No issues whatsoever with Eric or Tommy.

Bob Ezrin should have pushed the band harder on Destroyer and continued working with them through the seventies.

The studio outro of Black Diamond really upset me as a kid and prevents me enjoying the song. Which is, of course, infinitely better with Mr. Carr or Mr. Singer on lead vocals.

[Hey Man]

Feb 10, 2024 22:51:17 GMT -5 Steve said:

I'll start.

Peter Criss sucks.
Rock And Roll Over and Love Gun are awful.
The drum solo ruins Alive and should never have been included.
2004-2008, while Paul could still sing, was better and more interesting to me than 1996-2000. No issues whatsoever with Eric or Tommy.
Bob Ezrin should have pushed the band harder on Destroyer and continued working with them through the seventies.
The studio outro of Black Diamond really upset me as a kid and prevents me enjoying the song. Which is, of course infinitely better with Mr. Carr or Mr. Singer on lead vocals.

Is it all possible that KISS were average at best - both as songwriters and musicians no matter the era, that as much as you hate Peter Criss, he fit in with the others in the band who weren't virtuosos either?

It's not like Paul, Gene and Ace were Rush level musicians with this hack drummer.

Despite your preferences, I cannot understand how you can watch some of those early performances and not concede that they were tight and gelled together greatly.

[Steve]

Feb 10, 2024 23:01:32 GMT -5 Hey Man said:

Is it all possible that KISS were average at best - both as songwriters and musicians no matter the era, that as much as you hate Peter Criss, he fit in with the others in the band who weren't virtuosos either?

Nope. He was always the weak link, be it 76 or 96.

Feb 10, 2024 23:01:32 GMT -5 Hey Man said:

It's not like Paul, Gene and Ace were Rush level musicians with this hack drummer.

Very true. Both Erics inspired the others to lift their games in ways that Peter simply wasn't capable of. Listen to Sydney or Wellington 1980, or fast forward to 2001 when Ace talked about how good a time he had on the Japanese and (most of the) Australian farewell shows.

Feb 10, 2024 23:01:32 GMT -5 Hey Man said:

Despite your preferences, I cannot understand how you can watch some of those early performances and not concede that they were tight and gelled together greatly.

I very rarely watch those shows. Not my KISS and not my jam. When I happen across a clip every once in a while, I look at Peter the same way Bruce Dickinson looked at Paul Di'Anno the first time he saw Iron Maiden. 'I don't understand why he's there.'

[Margo Leadbetter]

Suck it!

[Steve]

Feb 11, 2024 4:45:13 GMT -5 Margo Leadbetter said:

Suck it!

[Margo Leadbetter]

I don’t get why Peter is the problem when Paul can barely play guitar and every year his Black Diamond intro has got worse not better, and Gene’s last cool bass line was in 1978, but whatever makes you happy dude! It’s a joke band anyway, trying to have a serious discussion about the musicality of KISS is a losing proposition anyway.

[Steve]

Feb 11, 2024 5:01:16 GMT -5 Margo Leadbetter said:

I don’t get why Peter is the problem when Paul can barely play guitar and every year his Black Diamond intro has got worse not better, and Gene’s last cool bass line was in 1978.

Paul and Gene were good once and wrote some tremendous songs I grew up with. Peter can make no such claim. He always the dead weight and should have been kicked to the kerb after the Chinese restaurant incident.

[Margo Leadbetter]

When should they have kicked Ace to the kerb?

[Steve]

Feb 11, 2024 6:41:22 GMT -5 Margo Leadbetter said:

When should they have kicked Ace to the kerb?

The originals should never have worked together again after 1978.

[I'm A Plumber]

I'm bummed that KIϟϟ didn't release anything to commemorate the 50th anniversary of one of the greatest debut albums of all time.

[Hey Man]

Feb 14, 2024 12:56:09 GMT -5 I'm A Plumber said:

I'm bummed that KIϟϟ didn't release anything to commemorate the 50th anniversary of one of the greatest debut albums of all time.

It isn't the greatest debut of all time. In fact the live versions are better, but yes - this was a missed opportunity.

Could have put together a great package even including the Wicked Lester tracks as an addition.

[kissoff]

Feb 14, 2024 12:56:09 GMT -5 I'm A Plumber said:

I'm bummed that KIϟϟ didn't release anything to commemorate the 50th anniversary of one of the greatest debut albums of all time.

I thought you didn't get bummed unless a dog escaped from your net & cuz KISS made a trillion from EOTR Tour putting zero in your pocket.

[Joma]

Feb 14, 2024 12:56:09 GMT -5 I'm A Plumber said:

I'm bummed that KIϟϟ didn't release anything to commemorate the 50th anniversary of one of the greatest debut albums of all time.

KOL lists 2/18 as the release date...so you can't say they didn't do anything yet.

That said, doesn't sound like they're doing a boxset, which seems like a huge miss. But getting your special 50th anniversary color vinyl will presumably happen.

[I'm A Plumber]

Does anyone have any clue what silly pissoff is referring to with this "dog-catcher" business?

[kissoff]

Feb 14, 2024 14:06:44 GMT -5 I'm A Plumber said:

Does anyone have any clue what silly pissoff is referring to with this "dog-catcher" business?

You said that's what you essentially do on the FAQ, is there more to it than that.

[I'm A Plumber]

Hey Einstein...I'm not the real MuchTooSoon.
Do you really think he'd join this site?!

[Hey Man]

Feb 14, 2024 14:26:45 GMT -5 I'm A Plumber said:

Hey Einstein...I'm not the real MuchTooSoon.
Do you really think he'd join this site?!

Well we hoped it was the real MTS.

What is your name on the FAQ? Answer.

[KISS79]

Grabbing the popcorn and waiting to know his FAQ name

[Margo Leadbetter]

It was TwistedTaste

[Joma]

Feb 14, 2024 12:56:09 GMT -5 I'm A Plumber said:

I'm bummed that KIϟϟ didn't release anything to commemorate the 50th anniversary of one of the greatest debut albums of all time.

Go get your colored vinyl! And hopefully you got the pic disc before it sold out if you wanted it.

[MikeyB]

Anyone own this set?


www.discogs.com/release/8314789-Kiss-The-Casablanca-Singles

[Hey Man]

Feb 16, 2024 0:51:28 GMT -5 KISS79 said:

Grabbing the popcorn and waiting to know his FAQ name

He won't ever reveal his name and pussied out here.

Told me he lost interest in this place yesterday - after he spent a while looking at this forum and then started a fake Much Too Soon account.

I suspect he didn't like people calling him out on the name and wanting to know who he really is.

[Joma]

Mar 19, 2024 13:03:58 GMT -5 MikeyB said:

Anyone own this set?


www.discogs.com/release/8314789-Kiss-The-Casablanca-Singles

Not me. I collect some pointless shit, but this isn't one of them.

[KISS79]

I say KISS should have had PRO-SHOT Full Concerts of the LICK IT UP, ASYLUM and "North American Show" CREATURES Tour's instead of Filming multiple (sometimes 3 shows in a row) of the same Tour/City like shake it up already eh just like the setlist SHAKE IT UP baby.

[MikeyB]

Feb 14, 2024 14:26:45 GMT -5 I'm A Plumber said:

Hey Einstein...I'm not the real MuchTooSoon.
Do you really think he'd join this site?!

So you're really a plumber then?!

[MikeyB]

Plumber seems to have disappeared.

Creates a KISS thread and then runs away.

Punk!