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Post by Hey Man on Sept 17, 2011 22:53:13 GMT -5
When it comes to her, I really don't care what is done or how it's done - but she needs to be taken down. Absolute bullshit. Get a clue Hey Man. What you are saying is pathetic. Honestly. Total bullshit I respectfully disagree. Sometimes the end justifies the means. Do you really think people would care how it happened, if her life came crashing down because she was exposed for who she really is? I don't think so.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Sept 17, 2011 22:55:25 GMT -5
I don't think people wish for her life to come crashing down, that's a bit far. Politically would you like to see her squashed? I would for sure but I don't wish her any ill will.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 22:59:49 GMT -5
I for one believe the book is full of bullshit by a creep with an agenda. No integrity at all. Even the critics are doubtful of the facts in the book.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Sept 17, 2011 23:00:57 GMT -5
To believe that this book was written without bias is an incorrect belief, what other reason would the man move next door to her?
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 17, 2011 23:03:20 GMT -5
I don't think people wish for her life to come crashing down, that's a bit far. Politically would you like to see her squashed? I would for sure but I don't wish her any ill will. I am not saying that I wish her dead, but she absolutely deserves to have her precious lifestyle taken away, which includes the money she has made from media whoring herself out. She does need to become a social pariah. Check out this new documentary about her.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Sept 17, 2011 23:04:03 GMT -5
She worked to earn that money, she should keep it. Just my two cents really.
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 17, 2011 23:06:12 GMT -5
To believe that this book was written without bias is an incorrect belief, what other reason would the man move next door to her? It's no different than the bias people have making movies about her, having a TV show about her and writing books about how awesome she is. Like I said, the end justifies the means if this new book destroyed her. If someone is able to make her go away, they have my support.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Sept 17, 2011 23:08:01 GMT -5
Is there bias behind her with her movies and TV shows based on her? Absolutely. As I've said before I'd rather watch her fade away on her own, it will happen eventually.
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 17, 2011 23:08:28 GMT -5
She worked to earn that money, she should keep it. Just my two cents really. She worked to earn the money writing books full of lies, going on bus tours and working at Fox News, when she isn't qualified to provide commentary? Does she really deserve that money? I don't think so.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Sept 17, 2011 23:10:33 GMT -5
Yeah but who is qualified to provide commentary at Fox News? Don't shoot me my Conservative friends.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Sept 17, 2011 23:15:32 GMT -5
She worked to earn that money, she should keep it. Just my two cents really. She worked to earn the money writing books full of lies, going on bus tours and working at Fox News, when she isn't qualified to provide commentary? Does she really deserve that money? I don't think so. Let me get this straight...she writes books full of lies; yet for all we know this author may be fabricating a chunk of his book, yet that makes it okay in this case just to make her look bad? Am I on the right track here?
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 17, 2011 23:16:52 GMT -5
Yeah but who is qualified to provide commentary at Fox News? Don't shoot me my Conservative friends. Be honest - if she was taken down politically and she finally shut the fuck up, would you really care how it was done ultimately? I don't think you would be crying for Sarah Palin.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Sept 17, 2011 23:18:32 GMT -5
Yeah but who is qualified to provide commentary at Fox News? Don't shoot me my Conservative friends. Be honest - if she was taken down politically and she finally shut the fuck up, would you really care how it was done ultimately? I don't think you would be crying for Sarah Palin. As I've said...there is a possibility this book may be partially fabricated, I would have a bit of a problem with that. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it but I think it's wrong ethically.
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 17, 2011 23:22:55 GMT -5
She worked to earn the money writing books full of lies, going on bus tours and working at Fox News, when she isn't qualified to provide commentary? Does she really deserve that money? I don't think so. Let me get this straight...she writes books full of lies; yet for all we know this author may be fabricating a chunk of his book, yet that makes it okay in this case just to make her look bad? Am I on the right track here? "May be" is the key word. She makes others look bad with her lies, so what's the difference really?
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 17, 2011 23:24:28 GMT -5
Be honest - if she was taken down politically and she finally shut the fuck up, would you really care how it was done ultimately? I don't think you would be crying for Sarah Palin. As I've said...there is a possibility this book may be partially fabricated, I would have a bit of a problem with that. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it but I think it's wrong ethically. Fair enough, but you would be happy with the outcome more or less.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Sept 17, 2011 23:26:39 GMT -5
Let me get this straight...she writes books full of lies; yet for all we know this author may be fabricating a chunk of his book, yet that makes it okay in this case just to make her look bad? Am I on the right track here? "May be" is the key word. She makes others look bad with her lies, so what's the difference really? Point taken. I'm already happy, she doesn't have a chance in hell at getting the Presidential Nomination. I'm fine with that, as I said, she doesn't need other people to make her look bad.
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 17, 2011 23:32:12 GMT -5
"May be" is the key word. She makes others look bad with her lies, so what's the difference really? Point taken. I'm already happy, she doesn't have a chance in hell at getting the Presidential Nomination. I'm fine with that, as I said, she doesn't need other people to make her look bad. No, but it would be nice if she no longer had a platform to spew her stupidity. I would enjoy it if she had to go back to Alaska with her tail between her legs, her supporters rejecting her and the whole world bashing her.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Sept 17, 2011 23:33:55 GMT -5
I think it's clear that her supporters are already turning on her, remember two years ago where she appeared (for a little bit) to be the favorite to win the Republican nomination?
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 17, 2011 23:37:13 GMT -5
I think it's clear that her supporters are already turning on her, remember two years ago where she appeared (for a little bit) to be the favorite to win the Republican nomination? She still has groups that ask her to speak and people follow her around on bus tours and book signings.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Sept 17, 2011 23:39:08 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with that, her exposure to the American public seems to be decreasing to me so her public downfall is already on the horizon.
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 17, 2011 23:40:33 GMT -5
I hope you are right.
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Post by RisingFarce on Sept 18, 2011 11:52:28 GMT -5
ALl seems for naught, despite what Fox news would like you to believe she has no hope in hell of ever coming close to the white house. Even Republicans know she's a joke that helped usher Obama into the white house. This is correct, as soon as Palin was on the ticket, Obama was a sure thing for the White House. Palin was the best thing the Dems could have hoped for at that point, because she torpedoed the every shred of credibility that McCain had left. Kaboom. Game over. It took about one minute into her first TV interview to close that door.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 11:25:30 GMT -5
I can see how it would feel weird and intrusive to have someone who is writing a book about you move into the house next door and I think it would have been better if this author had picked another house to live in while he was researching his book.
That said...The M.O. of the Palin's (and why they have been so successful) is to come out swinging about how unfair anything anyone says about them is and then they begin a smear campaign against said person. It happens over and over again... This author is a perv trying to peep on their daughter, the people in their home town that spoke to vanity fair last year were just malcontents, McCain's campaign aids were out to get them from the start...it's the same story everytime going back to Katie Couric having the audacity to ask a person no one had ever heard of until they were plucked from obscurity to run for the second highest office in the country what newspapers and magazines she read to keep up with national politics. So in truth if this author HAD used better sense and gotten a rental a mile away from their compound Todd would still be putting out press releases complaining about this guy starring at Sarah in the grocery store or some other situation.
As for this book, I'd prefer to read and research it before I comment on the validity of it. But my gut instinct of the Palin's is that people who have nothing to hide generally don't go around saying shit to get attention and then when people give them the attention they are trying to get act as if the world is out to get them because of it.
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 19, 2011 13:57:42 GMT -5
You betcha it's true.
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 20, 2011 13:32:33 GMT -5
New interview with author.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 22, 2011 7:12:34 GMT -5
The awful launch week for the over-hyped, expected bestseller The Rogue: Searching for the Real Sarah Palin, by controversial author Joe McGinniss, just got worse. Much worse. After a week of universally scathing pans from the reflexively anti-Palin establishment media, McGinniss now faces the fight of his literary life: the accusation that he seems to have knowingly submitted a book to his publisher, Crown/Random House, that was filled with unproved “tawdry gossip” and rumors that lacked “factual evidence.” In the email below, sent in January of 2011, McGinniss reveals that his manuscript, then under legal review at Crown/Random House, could not prove its most headline-grabbing allegations. And yet, many of these “salacious stories” that lacked “proof” (in McGinniss’s own words) ended up in the book, and on televisions everywhere during the author’s current media tour … without proper sourcing, and without any apparent new evidence to support them. McGinniss’s panicked state is evidenced by the identity of the recipient to whom he sent his email of distress. Jesse Griffin was the author of an obscure, low-rent, and now-defunct anti-Palin blog that obsessed over Trig Palin’s maternity–claiming, without any evidence, that Sarah Palin was not Trig’s mother. Was Random House aware that its prized author was making a desperate overtime bid to save face? And if so, why did it allow him to come forth with most of those tawdry accusations without proof or proper sourcing? biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2011/09/22/explosive-email-shows-anti-palin-author-mcginniss-random-house-likely-published-literary-hoax/I mean, it's not like it's surprising the Bat-Shit Crazy Left (Hey Man is the president) believed every word that came out form this man's mouth...but, still, it is amazing how Palin drives these lunatics even loonier.
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Post by RisingFarce on Sept 22, 2011 7:19:15 GMT -5
The awful launch week for the over-hyped, expected bestseller The Rogue: Searching for the Real Sarah Palin, by controversial author Joe McGinniss, just got worse. Much worse. After a week of universally scathing pans from the reflexively anti-Palin establishment media, McGinniss now faces the fight of his literary life: the accusation that he seems to have knowingly submitted a book to his publisher, Crown/Random House, that was filled with unproved “tawdry gossip” and rumors that lacked “factual evidence.” In the email below, sent in January of 2011, McGinniss reveals that his manuscript, then under legal review at Crown/Random House, could not prove its most headline-grabbing allegations. And yet, many of these “salacious stories” that lacked “proof” (in McGinniss’s own words) ended up in the book, and on televisions everywhere during the author’s current media tour … without proper sourcing, and without any apparent new evidence to support them. McGinniss’s panicked state is evidenced by the identity of the recipient to whom he sent his email of distress. Jesse Griffin was the author of an obscure, low-rent, and now-defunct anti-Palin blog that obsessed over Trig Palin’s maternity–claiming, without any evidence, that Sarah Palin was not Trig’s mother. Was Random House aware that its prized author was making a desperate overtime bid to save face? And if so, why did it allow him to come forth with most of those tawdry accusations without proof or proper sourcing? biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2011/09/22/explosive-email-shows-anti-palin-author-mcginniss-random-house-likely-published-literary-hoax/I mean, it's not like it's surprising the Bat-Shit Crazy Left (Hey Man is the president) believed every word that came out form this man's mouth...but, still, it is amazing how Palin drives these lunatics even loonier. Are you implying that you support Sarah Palin? Please say yes, because it will give me a buttload of mileage. Oh, and the stuff about the left "believing every word that came of of this man's mouth" - where exactly did you derive that information from? Because it isn't true, if you cared to bother reading into it.
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 22, 2011 7:23:54 GMT -5
The awful launch week for the over-hyped, expected bestseller The Rogue: Searching for the Real Sarah Palin, by controversial author Joe McGinniss, just got worse. Much worse. After a week of universally scathing pans from the reflexively anti-Palin establishment media, McGinniss now faces the fight of his literary life: the accusation that he seems to have knowingly submitted a book to his publisher, Crown/Random House, that was filled with unproved “tawdry gossip” and rumors that lacked “factual evidence.” In the email below, sent in January of 2011, McGinniss reveals that his manuscript, then under legal review at Crown/Random House, could not prove its most headline-grabbing allegations. And yet, many of these “salacious stories” that lacked “proof” (in McGinniss’s own words) ended up in the book, and on televisions everywhere during the author’s current media tour … without proper sourcing, and without any apparent new evidence to support them. McGinniss’s panicked state is evidenced by the identity of the recipient to whom he sent his email of distress. Jesse Griffin was the author of an obscure, low-rent, and now-defunct anti-Palin blog that obsessed over Trig Palin’s maternity–claiming, without any evidence, that Sarah Palin was not Trig’s mother. Was Random House aware that its prized author was making a desperate overtime bid to save face? And if so, why did it allow him to come forth with most of those tawdry accusations without proof or proper sourcing? biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2011/09/22/explosive-email-shows-anti-palin-author-mcginniss-random-house-likely-published-literary-hoax/I mean, it's not like it's surprising the Bat-Shit Crazy Left (Hey Man is the president) believed every word that came out form this man's mouth...but, still, it is amazing how Palin drives these lunatics even loonier. I haven't even read the book. What I commented on was just bits and pieces that were released and the interviews that he had done. But I find it hilarious that your information is from fucking Andrew Breitbart - who is known as being a complete media whore with absolutely NOTHING reputable about him. He is a complete joke and yet you obviously think that he is actually some kind of real journalist. Next time provide a real right wing source. Posting stuff from Breitbart is like posting news from The Onion.
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Post by Hey Man on Sept 23, 2011 6:59:07 GMT -5
The awful launch week for the over-hyped, expected bestseller The Rogue: Searching for the Real Sarah Palin, by controversial author Joe McGinniss, just got worse. Much worse. After a week of universally scathing pans from the reflexively anti-Palin establishment media, McGinniss now faces the fight of his literary life: the accusation that he seems to have knowingly submitted a book to his publisher, Crown/Random House, that was filled with unproved “tawdry gossip” and rumors that lacked “factual evidence.” In the email below, sent in January of 2011, McGinniss reveals that his manuscript, then under legal review at Crown/Random House, could not prove its most headline-grabbing allegations. And yet, many of these “salacious stories” that lacked “proof” (in McGinniss’s own words) ended up in the book, and on televisions everywhere during the author’s current media tour … without proper sourcing, and without any apparent new evidence to support them. McGinniss’s panicked state is evidenced by the identity of the recipient to whom he sent his email of distress. Jesse Griffin was the author of an obscure, low-rent, and now-defunct anti-Palin blog that obsessed over Trig Palin’s maternity–claiming, without any evidence, that Sarah Palin was not Trig’s mother. Was Random House aware that its prized author was making a desperate overtime bid to save face? And if so, why did it allow him to come forth with most of those tawdry accusations without proof or proper sourcing? biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2011/09/22/explosive-email-shows-anti-palin-author-mcginniss-random-house-likely-published-literary-hoax/I mean, it's not like it's surprising the Bat-Shit Crazy Left (Hey Man is the president) believed every word that came out form this man's mouth...but, still, it is amazing how Palin drives these lunatics even loonier. Over at Big Journalism, Andrew Breitbart has posted an email purportedly from Joe McGinniss that seems to show that even he didn’t think he had enough facts to back up the controversial claims in his Sarah Palin book, The Rogue. The alleged smoking gun is a list at the end of the email in which McGinniss names all the rumors from his book that he still needs “factual evidence” for. As Breitbart points out, nearly all of these rumors still ended up both in the book and McGinniss’ recent television appearances. Ironically, though, in trying to nail McGinniss for allegedly spreading unfounded rumors, Breitbart does the same, printing a Todd Palin rumor that didn’t end up in McGinniss’ book. In a Mediaite exclusive, McGinniss authenticates the Breitbart email, but says it’s not the smoking gun Andrew thinks it is. The email, for which Breitbart provides no source or attribution (although McGinniss has authenticated it for us. More on that later), was allegedly sent back in January to Jesse Griffin, the head of a now-defunct anti-Palin blog. In it, McGinniss complains to Griffin that she needs to give him better proof for some of the juicy stories on the blog or else he can’t include them in the book. Nearly all of the email discusses a rumor that Todd Palin paid for sex with a prostitute named Shailey Tripp. “Do you believe that Todd paid her for sex? If so, why do you believe that, other than that you wish it were true? A lurid, sensational, defamatory story about Todd, based only on the account of a woman charged with prostitution, who is no doubt desperate for money, and who sold her story to the Enquirer, is a gift from heaven for Sarah. Jesse, you can ridicule Sarah for calling in to the execrable Bob & Mark, but the fact is that as far as this story goes, there’s no there there. And rumors about what might come in weeks ahead are not facts. In fact, they’re garbage.” As Breitbart admits, the Tripp story never ended up in the book. So, it might seem that this “explosive email,” as Big Journalism’s headline calls it, isn’t quite as exciting as would seem. McGinniss heard a story, realized he didn’t have enough proof, emailed a source saying there wasn’t enough proof, and took it out. However, Breitbart goes on to point out that the end of the email contains a list of other rumors that McGinniss kept in. From the email: “No one has ever provided factual evidence that: a) Todd had sex with a hooker, or with anyone else outside his marriage. b) Sarah had an affair with Brad Hanson, or anyone else. c) Track was a druggie who enlisted in the army to avoid a jail term. Or that he vandalized Wasilla school buses. d) Willow was involved in the vandalism of the empty house in Meadow Lakes. Or that Sarah rushed back from Hawaii to put the lid on that. e) Trig is not Sarah’s natural born child. f) Bristol was promiscuous as a high schooler and drank and used drugs, or became pregnant again after Tripp’s birth.” Everything except the hooker story is in the book. That means that Breitbart, in publishing this email, is amplifying a rumor that even McGinniss didn’t think was fit to print. We reached out to McGinniss to ask if Breitbart’s email was the real thing, and how he responds to the accusation that it’s a smoking gun: My email to Jesse Griffin was an effort to secure Alaskan help in obtaining further corroboration of allegations about Sarah Palin that came to my attention during my research. My reporting continued beyond the date of the email, and only information that checked out to my satisfaction and that of my publisher was included in the book. Ultimately, I published only those allegations which I found to be credible. Other allegations that could not be sufficiently verified, including some of those referenced in my email, are not in my book.
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