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Post by Cducharme on May 30, 2012 11:11:18 GMT -5
I did the vocals for a band I'd grown up listening to on their last album. I didn't get credited because I was secretly doing it for the vocalist (who taught me how to sing death metal in the first place and had a bad case of pneumonia just after they paid for studio time, hence needing to bring in a ringer) and was mimicing his voice to a T. So while I'm not the credited vocalist, the band and I love laughing about people telling Boone he did a great job on this album. I'll link a couple songs taht are on the tube for you guys. Just keep in mind I was 18, and I am 1000X better now that I have more range and also that I was mimicing an established sound.
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Post by Cducharme on May 30, 2012 11:22:40 GMT -5
BTW I'm not expecting many of you to like/appreciate the recordings as they are very generic death metal
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Post by Hey Man on May 30, 2012 12:45:03 GMT -5
BTW I'm not expecting many of you to like/appreciate the recordings as they are very generic death metal I just don't understand this kind of "singing". Why can't one just sing normally over the music? What is the reason for Cookie Monster growls? |
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Post by Cducharme on May 30, 2012 14:02:02 GMT -5
It's certainly an acquired taste, I'll give you that. And my normal death metal vocals actually are much more decipherable (think Lamb of God for best example) but that's how the vocalist of this band has sounded so it's what I went for. As for why? It completes the goal of "a sound from hell" which is how it was explained to me when I met George Fisher when he was with Monstrosity not Cannibal corpse. Basically what would hell sound like in music form, if you believed in hell. Really I just love the music, it's always struck that pissed off chord in me and has served as a hell of an outlet for aggression.
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Post by Cducharme on May 30, 2012 14:03:03 GMT -5
I'll have a video of my new band "In the Key of Suffering" in a few months, we're almost tight enough to go out playing. I'm a bit of a perfectionist so I don't like taking a sloppy band out
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Post by R&ROVER on May 30, 2012 14:07:22 GMT -5
It's certainly an acquired taste. Like vegemite. |
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Post by Hey Man on May 30, 2012 14:17:18 GMT -5
It's certainly an acquired taste, I'll give you that. And my normal death metal vocals actually are much more decipherable (think Lamb of God for best example) but that's how the vocalist of this band has sounded so it's what I went for. As for why? It completes the goal of "a sound from hell" which is how it was explained to me when I met George Fisher when he was with Monstrosity not Cannibal corpse. Basically what would hell sound like in music form, if you believed in hell. Really I just love the music, it's always struck that pissed off chord in me and has served as a hell of an outlet for aggression. I am curious though - do any of these types of singers actually have a great voice - meaning could they sing normally and blow people away? |
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Post by R&ROVER on May 30, 2012 14:45:24 GMT -5
It's certainly an acquired taste, I'll give you that. And my normal death metal vocals actually are much more decipherable (think Lamb of God for best example) but that's how the vocalist of this band has sounded so it's what I went for. As for why? It completes the goal of "a sound from hell" which is how it was explained to me when I met George Fisher when he was with Monstrosity not Cannibal corpse. Basically what would hell sound like in music form, if you believed in hell. Really I just love the music, it's always struck that pissed off chord in me and has served as a hell of an outlet for aggression. I am curious though - do any of these types of singers actually have a great voice - meaning could they sing normally and blow people away? I've seen some bands rely on the growl and then break into a sweet chorus. POD or one of those bands (don't quote me)...and the second I hear that I'm thinking "Do THAT part more often!" So, yeah, some of them do choose this with other options. |
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Post by R&ROVER on May 30, 2012 14:47:07 GMT -5
Can you confirm what Demon said: "Death growls require as much skill as Freddie Mercury style vocals." LOL It's not something I can do, personally...but I laugh at the notion of it taking the same level of skill as honing melody, pitch, harmony, etc. |
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Post by Cducharme on May 30, 2012 14:56:11 GMT -5
It's certainly an acquired taste, I'll give you that. And my normal death metal vocals actually are much more decipherable (think Lamb of God for best example) but that's how the vocalist of this band has sounded so it's what I went for. As for why? It completes the goal of "a sound from hell" which is how it was explained to me when I met George Fisher when he was with Monstrosity not Cannibal corpse. Basically what would hell sound like in music form, if you believed in hell. Really I just love the music, it's always struck that pissed off chord in me and has served as a hell of an outlet for aggression. I am curious though - do any of these types of singers actually have a great voice - meaning could they sing normally and blow people away? Yes there are some. Fear Factory's Burton C Bell started off with just a death growl and showed everyone just how soaring his real voice is. Early Fear Factory Fear Factory Doing Neuman's Cars There's more examples as well. Angela Gassow (yes a woman) sings for Arch enemy, who admittedly were heavier her first few albums, and she can hit operatic highs night after night (seen her do it 4 nights in a row once). |
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Post by Cducharme on May 30, 2012 14:57:11 GMT -5
POD BTW is a terrible rap/rock band. I doubt it as them.
No, Mercury's style would involve a shitload more talent than any death metal delivery. I readily admit that.
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Post by R&ROVER on May 30, 2012 15:40:30 GMT -5
No, Mercury's style would involve a shitload more talent than any death metal delivery. I readily admit that. Exalt for not being a closed-minded fuckwit! X 2 And I'm not dissing on this style and haven't listened to the clips yet myself (at work), so no slight intended towards our friend here either.... |
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Post by Hey Man on May 30, 2012 15:43:09 GMT -5
POD BTW is a terrible rap/rock band. I doubt it as them. No, Mercury's style would involve a shitload more talent than any death metal delivery. I readily admit that. Can you post something in your regular singing voice - I would like to hear the difference. |
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Post by Cducharme on May 30, 2012 15:45:49 GMT -5
I have honestly never recorded a real singing voice part. I'm very much not a fan of the way I sound without the effort behind extreme metal. BTW I have terrible ears and have difficulty hearing myself and thus regulating something that not's just pure brutality.
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Post by Hey Man on May 30, 2012 15:51:18 GMT -5
I have honestly never recorded a real singing voice part. I'm very much not a fan of the way I sound without the effort behind extreme metal. So you are not the Voice of Rock when you are not doing death metal?  |
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Post by Cducharme on May 30, 2012 15:56:03 GMT -5
Nope, I probably do OK but I'm not a rock vocalist  |
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Post by R&ROVER on May 31, 2012 6:53:41 GMT -5
Which also (incidentally) is shit. Exactly the reaction I was hoping for. Sorry in advance to Dute, if she loves vegemite. ;D |
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Post by dute on May 31, 2012 7:05:37 GMT -5
Which also (incidentally) is shit. Exactly the reaction I was hoping for. Sorry in advance to Dute, if she loves vegemite. ;D I was going to let that slight insult slide against us and not say anything at all.  There is no need for apologies. Vegemite is actually crappy - but with a bit of margarine it passes as edible. I've honestly only had it a few times. Mainly I'm embarrassed when American celebrities visit and it seems it's a pastime to make them try it. I'd rather they let them have a Tim Tam. Sorry. Thread hijacked - please carry on. |
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Post by R&ROVER on May 31, 2012 7:21:05 GMT -5
Exalt
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Post by Cducharme on May 31, 2012 10:59:26 GMT -5
It's ok LED, that's why I even posted a reply to the thread stating I didn't expect anyone here to LIKE the music As for the band being dicks, they kind of were, but I'd known them since I was 12 and had very little chance of being surprised by the way they act |
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Post by dute on May 31, 2012 17:49:46 GMT -5
Shame. He's nowhere near the tard that Justin is, but he's good stupid entertainment (in a Bingham type way). Even Justin would never stoop so low as to exploit the 9/11 tragedy for sympathy. I too wish he'd come around here, there's a shortage of threads on Halloween and Batman '89.  He could tell us again about his DVD of the Cadillac show. I think it'd be awesome beyond words if TJ would man up and come on over to the dark side. After the initial razzing he'd blend in well I think. Of course no one would ever be too far of reminding him of things he's said and done but that's not much different from the FAQ now... A list of the 'best of' the FAQers - kssdiehard, way up there. Now excuse me whilst I go and watch my copy of Cadillac that no one else has. |
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Post by Justin on Jun 1, 2012 21:05:12 GMT -5
Not bad at all considering this is no where near my wheel house musical taste.
Couldn't understand a word but there are some killer riffs and the drumming about half way through is pretty exciting stuff.
If i could understand the lyrics your singing in a more regular vocal voice you'd be onto something really good there.
Maybe it is generic but to me it was fresh as i rarely if ever listen to death metal.
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Post by Cducharme on Jun 1, 2012 21:32:24 GMT -5
Justin, yeah the vocal delivery was a mimic job so I was going for that particular mush mouth sound (which I nailed perfect, even Boone their vocalist said I sounded just like him). My normal vocal delivery is more akin to Randy Blythe's delivery the latest Lamb of God album Resolution, and thus a little easier to understand. And really, those lyrics aren't ones you'd have wanted to hear anyway, Boone has an obsession with rape and his lyrics seem to focus on that. Or they are patently absurd, like the song Brownfinger they used to do.
Oh and thanks for the kind words even if it was about the other members of the band. When I get my next project up to snuff I'll happily post some stuff with my real vocal delivery on it.
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Post by Cducharme on Jun 1, 2012 21:34:24 GMT -5
Oh and the drummer is one I've worked with many times since, he's incredible. Almost a blur of technicality, who only grips his stick with two fingers (and uses the remaining three to complete a "close" motion, thus getting multiple strikes per downward stroke usually 3-5 depending on the song) and looks like he could lose them at any time.
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Post by Justin on Jun 1, 2012 23:44:39 GMT -5
Oh and the drummer is one I've worked with many times since, he's incredible. Almost a blur of technicality, who only grips his stick with two fingers (and uses the remaining three to complete a "close" motion, thus getting multiple strikes per downward stroke usually 3-5 depending on the song) and looks like he could lose them at any time. Sounds like a cool ass drummer to me. All the best with your musical endeavours. I can smell a fantastic drummer a mile away and i hear one in those songs most definitely. Have you got something else you can post ? |
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Post by Cducharme on Jun 1, 2012 23:53:06 GMT -5
Of me? Not that I'd admit to it being me I had a hardcore band in my teens that I recorded a demo with, I think some of it's wound up on the 'net but my voice was WAY too high (I'm talking before nuts dropped kinda teenager 12 -14) and even though it WAS a metal vocal delivery, I'm not at all proud of it. I think that one bad recording was what started my perfectionism.
Now if you mean more of that drummer, lemme dig up a couple of Molested's older stuff (the drums are just as amazing, the guitar riffs are almost as good, and the vocals are actually clearer because Boone was relying less on gutturals and sang clearer than he did during the end of their time together, which was when I did that session work for them.) I think you'll get a kick out of that stuff more. |
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Post by Cducharme on Jun 2, 2012 0:03:53 GMT -5
Damn could only find one, but it's one of my favorites called "The Crippler" www.myspace.com/music/player?song=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myspace.com%2Fmolestedsenses%2Fmusic%2Fsongs%2Fthe-crippler-28400599lyrics I can remember: How low can you go? I tell you age doesn't matter How low can you go? Last words, yes please more master How low can you go? I tell you hell is above me How low can you go Last words.. On a moment's notice I want to rule the world I want a give a new meaning to torture When I drink I drink enough for two Giving praise to the almighty hangover If I sleep it's only 'cause I pass out One more day for the one who created me Only one that can save you Legend lives, words of the crippler. There's lots more, I just haven't heard the whole song since like 99 and haven't sung it since 98 filling in for Boone at a show |
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Post by Justin on Jun 4, 2012 21:14:22 GMT -5
I can smell a fantastic drummer a mile away? Yes, all on cymbal counts alone. I thought the way he broke up the million mile an hour stuff was very good. Sure some interesting cymbal use never hurt anybody. The hi hat rythm parts are wicked ass as well. |
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Post by Cducharme on Jun 4, 2012 23:21:23 GMT -5
He's one of the best metal drummers in the northeast USA. He won maine's fastest drummer competition 7 years in a row and stopped entering to let someone else win. Scott Nota is his name, I do believe this is the only group he recorded with, but he's played drums for 4 of my projects, I tend to do projects as opposed to bands, we'll get 10-15 songs really tight that really good and just do shows for 5 months. Then I move on. I've got band ADD |
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Post by Ack on Jun 9, 2012 14:32:26 GMT -5
I dig some death metal. Big fan of Entombed. The vocals are harsh but decipherable. I also dig Chuck Billy's approach when Testament added some DM stylings on The Gathering. One of my favorite new bands is Charred Walls of the Damned, featuring Ripper Owens. It's basically death metal with soaring power metal vocals on top. Good stuff.
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