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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2012 23:37:40 GMT -5
Let's start fresh..... I bought the album today, and am now listening to it for the first time.....3 songs in, and I'm absolutely fucking loving it.
I love hearing Dave's voice again. With Ed's distinctive RHYTHM guitar playing behind him. It is a comforting sound.
I have a feeling this album is going to grow heavily on me.
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Post by flexlufful on Feb 7, 2012 23:41:21 GMT -5
It's a classic VH album. No question.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2012 23:52:06 GMT -5
As Is fucking slays!
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Post by copronymos on Feb 8, 2012 0:22:50 GMT -5
I bought it, but haven't spun it yet. I have some hope based on the reviews here and there.
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Post by allyourlies on Feb 8, 2012 1:13:52 GMT -5
Ive spun the cd twice today. I would say for me its 6-7 songs thumps up.
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Post by Spirit on Feb 8, 2012 14:05:52 GMT -5
Love it.
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 8, 2012 14:49:54 GMT -5
What that guy said. ^
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Post by Vandelay Industries on Feb 8, 2012 18:11:16 GMT -5
i feel like i stole the keys to the delorean & blasted into 1982. whoever coined the term "you can't go back" needs to hear this album! man, i feel like a kid again....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2012 20:02:29 GMT -5
Totally makes me feel like a kid again hearing this album.
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Post by Ford GT on Feb 8, 2012 22:45:03 GMT -5
Been playing it alot since Monday afternoon on the ride to work & home. Although we're only in the second month of 2012 and 8 years left in the decade, I understand it's THE best album of the year & decade! LOL!!!
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Post by dute on Feb 8, 2012 22:52:05 GMT -5
Been playing it alot since Monday afternoon on the ride to work & home. Although we're only in the second month of 2012 and 8 years left in the decade, I understand it's THE best album of the year & decade! LOL!!! Bold statement. But I shall agree (until I hear the new KISS record ).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2012 0:16:40 GMT -5
Been playing it alot since Monday afternoon on the ride to work & home. Although we're only in the second month of 2012 and 8 years left in the decade, I understand it's THE best album of the year & decade! LOL!!! Bold statement. But I shall agree (until I hear the new KISS record ). This! I am so glad Dave is back. And back with Halen......wow....life is actually good.
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 9, 2012 7:17:19 GMT -5
Neat to hear the album touch on so many sweet spots from the past, both inevitably because of some older demos and just naturally because that’s their style with DLR. I’m glad to hear him back on an entire album again. It’s been a presence I didn’t realize just how much I'd missed, especially since I’ve always dug Sammy, until finally hearing it again. Having Roth’s sense of humor and his varied vocal stylings back in VH, well, it’s a bit like it’s 1985 and we never hopped off the bike.
It’s a bit like finding a well-loved shirt in the closet and not only does it not smell like mold and have moth holes in it, it’s both in great shape and shockingly it fits too. Good times.
I had the realization this morning that my oldest son is the same age now that I was when 1984 came out. Man, it’s been a long time…
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 9, 2012 12:59:24 GMT -5
So I have been listenening to this album for a while now and while it is excellent, I am going to go a little Blackwell here and say that there isn't much melody on this album and it's not very song oriented per se, but it doesn't matter. It is a darker album and there isn't much warmth like on past songs such as Women In Love, Simple Rhyme or Drop Dead Legs.
We all want different things from a Van Halen album and yes, I wanted more Running With The Devil or Panama type songs and they are just not on this album. For a lack of a better word, this is not a commercial album in the sense of Van Halen 1 or 1984. I think if this album had come out in the 80's, it would be a dark horse album like Fair Warning - a fan favorite, but not a big seller for them compared to what came before and what came after.
Having said that, I give them all the credit in the world for not making a safe Van Halen album with more commercial type songs or an I'll Wait for 2012. They certainly were not going for hit singles here or an attempt to make 1984/Diver Down for 2012. They went against the grain and I respect that.
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 9, 2012 13:49:36 GMT -5
I think the FW thing is an apt comparison for the reasons you state...a bit dark, a little less commercial, fans like it, and it suffers a lack of broad (meaning, outside the fan base) appeal. NOT 1984. The entire commercial musical landscape being different kind of makes it a bit moot today (I realize you said if it'd come out in the 80s) since nothing would make this thing go double platinum or get them on pop radio, really, because they're 60 year old men....and rock radio is dead. But as far as the album itself goes, I think you're more spot on than not. But yeah, this would've been a less successful 80s album for much the same reason FW was.
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 9, 2012 13:58:29 GMT -5
I think the FW thing is an apt comparison for the reasons you state...a bit dark, a little less commercial, fans like it, and it suffers a lack of broad (meaning, outside the fan base) appeal. NOT 1984. The entire commercial musical landscape being different kind of makes it a bit moot today (I realize you said if it'd come out in the 80s) since nothing would make this thing go double platinum or get them on pop radio, really, because they're 60 year old men....and rock radio is dead. But as far as the album itself goes, I think you're more spot on than not. But yeah, this would've been a less successful 80s album for much the same reason FW was. Not that Van Halen are going to take over radio, but there are one of the few hard rock bands that have cross over appeal, so for that reason - if they had made a full on commerical Van Halen album like 1984, it certainly would have the best shot to do well similar (but less so) to AC/DC.
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 9, 2012 14:04:35 GMT -5
Definitely more FW than anything. Which is wonderful as FW is my favorite VH album! Tattoo is the closest this comes to a commercial track and it's the oddity of the album. I gotta say, after living with it for a few days it's ranking up there in the top 4-5 VH albums for me. Maybe time will tell otherwise but I don't think so. How many of those 4 or 5 include Sammy Hagar?
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 9, 2012 15:56:13 GMT -5
Definitely more FW than anything. Which is wonderful as FW is my favorite VH album! Tattoo is the closest this comes to a commercial track and it's the oddity of the album. I gotta say, after living with it for a few days it's ranking up there in the top 4-5 VH albums for me. Maybe time will tell otherwise but I don't think so. Yes, that's my best guess as well...(where it will end up for me).
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Post by Vandelay Industries on Feb 9, 2012 16:52:41 GMT -5
still not tired of hearing it. my 4-year old loves "stay frosty" & boogies to it....i love the old-school scream DLR gives right near the end of the song. i keep hearing the "ice cream man" comparisons, and in some parts that might be applicable, but i'd also throw "take your whiskey home" & "fools" in there as well...
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Post by flexlufful on Feb 9, 2012 17:31:24 GMT -5
I just got back from driving around in my car on an INCREDIBLE day in Los Angeles with the windows down while listening to it...
Good times.
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Post by Vandelay Industries on Feb 9, 2012 19:37:42 GMT -5
rolling stone gives it a thumbs-up..... Rob Sheffield February 9, 2012 We've earned this, right? When David Lee Roth and Van Halen went down their own separate mean streets in the Eighties, who paid the price? We did. Van Halen fans everywhere have suffered through the years, waiting for this reunion. We don't need it to be Fair Warning or Van Halen II. We don't even need it to be Diver Down. We just deserve a break. Well, as the man used to say: one break, coming up. Van Halen's "heard you missed us, we're back" album is not only the most long-awaited reunion joint in the history of reunion joints, it is – against all reasonable expectations – a real Van Halen album. It's sonically closer to 1984 than to 5150, but it's closer to 1980's Women and Children First than to either – no synth glop, no ballads. Eddie always liked to compare the band's sound to "Godzilla waking up," but this is the real deal. And the old lizard sounds hungry to chomp some power lines. A Different Kind of Truth is the first Van Halen album since the Nineties dregs of Balance and Van Halen III, which were just humiliating Styx rips. But Eddie has rediscovered his guitar and unplugged the synths, as if Roth's presence reminded Eddie who his band is named after. Since there's never been a single Van Halen fan in history who secretly wished Eddie would put down the guitar and play more keyboards, this is a coup. Especially because Eddie's solos have the fluency of his early Eighties playing – just listen to him stretch out on "Big River" and "Blood and Fire." If the songs are based on 1970s demos, that was a wise move, because wherever these 13 tunes came from, there isn't a single Waldo on the bus. The tempos are atomic-punk fast, letting Alex Van Halen rock out on the drums for the first time since his flaming-gong days. Original bassist Michael Anthony is missed for his bottom end, and even more for his kicked-in-the-nads harmonies. But Wolfgang Van Halen, Eddie's son, acquits himself superbly – he definitely doesn't flunk if anyone asks, "Have you seen Junior's grades?" As for Diamond Dave, the gods only made one of him, because they couldn't take the competition. Now this is a rock star, except no other rock star would try to get away with this many cornball one-liners ("It's looking like the city towed my other apartment!"). He's lost a high note or two, but the "stone-cold sister soccer moms" he pursues in "Honeybabysweetiedoll" probably like him better this way. Toward the end, Roth reaches down between his legs, eases the seat back and shifts into "Stay Frosty." It's not just the show-stopper – it's a four-minute anthology of everything that rules about Van Halen. It begins as an acoustic country-blues goof, then switches into metal bombast, as Eddie's fingers and Roth's lips take turns showing off. "Stay Frosty" ends with the trick Van Halen did better than any band ever: the crashing power-chord-and-drumroll finale, which goes on for 30 insane seconds. It's ridiculous. It's obnoxious. It's awesome. This moment alone sums up why the album needed to happen. We've earned it. And so have they. Read more: www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/a-different-kind-of-truth-20120209#ixzz1lw15fBpL
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Post by Ack on Feb 9, 2012 19:49:22 GMT -5
Been playing it nonstop since Tuesday morning and I'm not bored with a single thing on this album. That says something. Easily a Top 5 VH album for me.
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 9, 2012 20:34:35 GMT -5
I can't believe Rolling Stone didn't pan it.
Like ACK, I'm diggin' this album for a third straight day and about 8 total listens. Don't skip a track either, including Tattoo...(tempting not because I don't like it -- I do -- but because I've heard it about 20 more times than the others. Still, I've played it in order every time).
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Post by Ford GT on Feb 9, 2012 23:49:30 GMT -5
Been playing it alot since Monday afternoon on the ride to work & home. Although we're only in the second month of 2012 and 8 years left in the decade, I understand it's THE best album of the year & decade! LOL!!! Bold statement. But I shall agree (until I hear the new KISS record ). If you've been reading the thread on Kissfaq you know where I got this from! ;D So far it IS the album of the year but as mentioned we have not heard Monster or myself the rest of Rush's Clockwork Angels. Not sure if I listened to Chickenfoot III for a week straight. Not a slam on that album at all because it was one of my favorites from 2011 but Van Halen did good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2012 1:33:53 GMT -5
Been spinning it pretty much non-stop... Tattoo is the new Take Your Whiskey Home... really....play 'em back to back.....
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Post by Justlee on Feb 10, 2012 13:15:41 GMT -5
Solid album. But I would put it at the bottom of the Roth albums, and somewhere in the middle of the Sammy stuff.
Probably above III, OU812, and F.U.C.K.
A little underwhelmed, but it is still good to hear Roth again.
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Post by purpleplanet on Feb 10, 2012 17:10:05 GMT -5
This is how i rank them.
1 VH I 2. VH II 3. Women and children first 4. Fair WARNING 5. ADKOT 6. Diver down 7. 1984
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Post by Vandelay Industries on Feb 10, 2012 21:33:40 GMT -5
my 4-year old daughter has a new favorite song on the album, but i admit she was slightly disappointed when i told her it was not called "she's a walnut" ;D
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Post by Justin on Feb 10, 2012 22:35:16 GMT -5
So I have been listenening to this album for a while now and while it is excellent, I am going to go a little Blackwell here and say that there isn't much melody on this album and it's not very song oriented per se, but it doesn't matter. It is a darker album and there isn't much warmth like on past songs such as Women In Love, Simple Rhyme or Drop Dead Legs. We all want different things from a Van Halen album and yes, I wanted more Running With The Devil or Panama type songs and they are just not on this album. For a lack of a better word, this is not a commercial album in the sense of Van Halen 1 or 1984. I think if this album had come out in the 80's, it would be a dark horse album like Fair Warning - a fan favorite, but not a big seller for them compared to what came before and what came after. Having said that, I give them all the credit in the world for not making a safe Van Halen album with more commercial type songs or an I'll Wait for 2012. They certainly were not going for hit singles here or an attempt to make 1984/Diver Down for 2012. They went against the grain and I respect that. They went against the grain. A safe or actually good Van Halen album ?
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Post by Justin on Feb 10, 2012 22:44:35 GMT -5
rolling stone gives it a thumbs-up..... Rob Sheffield February 9, 2012 We've earned this, right? When David Lee Roth and Van Halen went down their own separate mean streets in the Eighties, who paid the price? We did. Van Halen fans everywhere have suffered through the years, waiting for this reunion. We don't need it to be Fair Warning or Van Halen II. We don't even need it to be Diver Down. We just deserve a break. Well, as the man used to say: one break, coming up. Van Halen's "heard you missed us, we're back" album is not only the most long-awaited reunion joint in the history of reunion joints, it is – against all reasonable expectations – a real Van Halen album. It's sonically closer to 1984 than to 5150, but it's closer to 1980's Women and Children First than to either – no synth glop, no ballads. Eddie always liked to compare the band's sound to "Godzilla waking up," but this is the real deal. And the old lizard sounds hungry to chomp some power lines. A Different Kind of Truth is the first Van Halen album since the Nineties dregs of Balance and Van Halen III, which were just humiliating Styx rips. But Eddie has rediscovered his guitar and unplugged the synths, as if Roth's presence reminded Eddie who his band is named after. Since there's never been a single Van Halen fan in history who secretly wished Eddie would put down the guitar and play more keyboards, this is a coup. Especially because Eddie's solos have the fluency of his early Eighties playing – just listen to him stretch out on "Big River" and "Blood and Fire." If the songs are based on 1970s demos, that was a wise move, because wherever these 13 tunes came from, there isn't a single Waldo on the bus. The tempos are atomic-punk fast, letting Alex Van Halen rock out on the drums for the first time since his flaming-gong days. Original bassist Michael Anthony is missed for his bottom end, and even more for his kicked-in-the-nads harmonies. But Wolfgang Van Halen, Eddie's son, acquits himself superbly – he definitely doesn't flunk if anyone asks, "Have you seen Junior's grades?" As for Diamond Dave, the gods only made one of him, because they couldn't take the competition. Now this is a rock star, except no other rock star would try to get away with this many cornball one-liners ("It's looking like the city towed my other apartment!"). He's lost a high note or two, but the "stone-cold sister soccer moms" he pursues in "Honeybabysweetiedoll" probably like him better this way. Toward the end, Roth reaches down between his legs, eases the seat back and shifts into "Stay Frosty." It's not just the show-stopper – it's a four-minute anthology of everything that rules about Van Halen. It begins as an acoustic country-blues goof, then switches into metal bombast, as Eddie's fingers and Roth's lips take turns showing off. "Stay Frosty" ends with the trick Van Halen did better than any band ever: the crashing power-chord-and-drumroll finale, which goes on for 30 insane seconds. It's ridiculous. It's obnoxious. It's awesome. This moment alone sums up why the album needed to happen. We've earned it. And so have they. Read more: www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/a-different-kind-of-truth-20120209#ixzz1lw15fBpLThe hyper bole about this album has reached rolling stone. Best reunion ever ! I think that says enough about how rediculously over the top this review is. I knew there was a reason i ignored Rolling Stone.
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