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Post by Hey Man on Apr 1, 2017 13:11:13 GMT -5
I read this comment on another forum by a guy that voted for Trump, because he couldn't vote for Hillary.
This perfectly says it all:
I am starting to give credence to the theory that Trump is a fucking moron that somehow is one of those people you meet in life that seem to "fail up", we all know them. I remain hopeful, but so far this is a complete clusterfuck and embarrassment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 13:28:05 GMT -5
When your reading list is nothing but liberal propaganda what else would you be expected to do but spout poor loser liberal Pablum...Trump's second term is gonna kill you all off once and for all...Then we can start rounding up all the undesirables and send them back home or prison...Interchangeable... Thus creating the America envisioned by our Founding fathers!
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Post by Hey Man on Apr 1, 2017 14:24:54 GMT -5
When your reading list is nothing but liberal propaganda what else would you be expected to do but spout poor loser liberal Pablum...Trump's second term is gonna kill you all off once and for all...Then we can start rounding up all the undesirables and send them back home or prison...Interchangeable... Thus creating the America envisioned by our Founding fathers! LOL. It's hilarious that you think Trump will have a second term. It's also hilarious that you can't comprehend what you read. There is nothing liberal about it - HE VOTED FOR TRUMP BECAUSE HE COULDN'T STAND HILLARY.You really are not that intelligent are you? There is no shame in you admitting that. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 20:59:29 GMT -5
When your reading list is nothing but liberal propaganda what else would you be expected to do but spout poor loser liberal Pablum...Trump's second term is gonna kill you all off once and for all...Then we can start rounding up all the undesirables and send them back home or prison...Interchangeable... Thus creating the America envisioned by our Founding fathers! LOL. It's hilarious that you think Trump will have a second term. It's also hilarious that you can't comprehend what you read. There is nothing liberal about it - HE VOTED FOR TRUMP BECAUSE HE COULDN'T STAND HILLARY.You really are not that intelligent are you? There is no shame in you admitting that. Must be sad to be on the losing side...Realizing your side had given everything it can....But is seriously starting to get on America's nerve....Democrats...Bernie...All the protest groups....Think your a bunch of cry baby sore losers...Trumps 2nd term is practically guaranteed....As long as you guys keep qcting the way your acting....No one is gonna put you in power...Cry babies!!! |
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Post by Hey Man on Apr 1, 2017 21:22:55 GMT -5
LOL. It's hilarious that you think Trump will have a second term. It's also hilarious that you can't comprehend what you read. There is nothing liberal about it - HE VOTED FOR TRUMP BECAUSE HE COULDN'T STAND HILLARY.You really are not that intelligent are you? There is no shame in you admitting that. Must be sad to be on the losing side...Realizing your side had given everything it can....But is seriously starting to get on America's nerve....Democrats...Bernie...All the protest groups....Think your a bunch of cry baby sore losers...Trumps 2nd term is practically guaranteed....As long as you guys keep qcting the way your acting....No one is gonna put you in power...Cry babies!!! Not at all. Trump is proving to be the shit show I knew he would be and a 2020 Democratic comeback will be all the more sweeter and The GOP will be all but dead. It couldn't work out more beautifully. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 21:43:03 GMT -5
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Post by Hey Man on Apr 1, 2017 22:03:33 GMT -5
LOL. Rob Schneider. Ya, like he knows what the fuck he is talking about.  |
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Post by CaboChris on Apr 2, 2017 6:28:01 GMT -5
Trump is doin' just fine.  |
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Post by Hey Man on Apr 2, 2017 12:10:25 GMT -5
Trump is doin' just fine. We both know that Trump has been a complete shit show and embarrassment - making many people who voted for him regret that decision. You just have blind faith that things will get better. |
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Post by CaboChris on Apr 2, 2017 13:10:57 GMT -5
Trump is doin' just fine. We both know that Trump has been a complete shit show and embarrassment - making many people who voted for him regret that decision. You just have blind faith that things will get better. There are a few things that I don't care for...but hell...that goes for any politician but as of RIGHT NOW (like that VH nod?) It's ok. I bet you must have been in stunned silence on election night. Like "wtf just happened" and that brings me great joy because I KNOW you never thought it possible. |
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Post by Hey Man on Apr 2, 2017 13:17:52 GMT -5
We both know that Trump has been a complete shit show and embarrassment - making many people who voted for him regret that decision. You just have blind faith that things will get better. There are a few things that I don't care for...but hell...that goes for any politician but as of RIGHT NOW (like that VH nod?) It's ok. I bet you must have been in stunned silence on election night. Like "wtf just happened" and that brings me great joy because I KNOW you never thought it possible. True - the entire world couldn't believe the utter stupidity of Americans and now those same Americans are waking up to the fact that we were right all along about Trump and that brings me great joy. It will also make the Republican loss in 2018 and 2020 all that much sweeter, so it's worth it to me that Hillary lost. I think America needed to be reminded that Republicans are fucking horrible. |
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Post by Cducharme on Apr 2, 2017 14:42:51 GMT -5
Trump is exactly the authoritarian oligarch I said he was during the election cycle. Reckless spending causing dependence on federal government? Check.
AG who believes in federal superiority over states? Check.
Legislating by executive order? Check.
Continued aggression in foreign policy? Check.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 14:50:33 GMT -5
I know more people who back him now openly than before the Election....I'm just glad Heyman is prediction Democrp wins in 18 & 20 ....That mean the wind is blowing good for us....If Heyman hates it....Trump must be doing so,ething right.....Time for a new diaper cry baby....Your thoughys are not relevant... Do not adjust your picture....We control your future!
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Post by Cducharme on Apr 2, 2017 14:53:01 GMT -5
Funny, only side I have is America and seems that side loses every single one of these stupid 2 party circle jerks
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Post by Hey Man on Apr 2, 2017 15:14:11 GMT -5
I know more people who back him now openly than before the Election....I'm just glad Heyman is prediction Democrp wins in 18 & 20 ....That mean the wind is blowing good for us....If Heyman hates it....Trump must be doing so,ething right.....Time for a new diaper cry baby....Your thoughys are not relevant... Do not adjust your picture....We control your future! There you go - CaboChris just provided an opposing view. No echo chamber. |
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Post by CaboChris on Apr 2, 2017 15:25:26 GMT -5
There you go - CaboChris just provided an opposing view. No echo chamber. Here's the thing, man. I'm a bit of everything. I'm conservative on some issues and I'm THE most liberal on others. Healthcare/social programs etc. I'm pro America but i'm also pro fellow man and understand from personal experience that that "personal responsibility" shit only goes so far. We're lagging in my country and I don't like it. Having said that...VIVA TRUMP! |
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Post by Hey Man on Apr 2, 2017 15:30:41 GMT -5
There you go - CaboChris just provided an opposing view. No echo chamber. Here's the thing, man. I'm a bit of everything. I'm conservative on some issues and I'm THE most liberal on others. Healthcare/social programs etc. I'm pro America but i'm also pro fellow man and understand from personal experience that that "personal responsibility" shit only goes so far. We're lagging in my country and I don't like it. Having said that...VIVA TRUMP! What's your stance on gay rights, pro-life/pro-choice and should pot be legal? I have always liked and agreed with your view on healthcare. |
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Post by CaboChris on Apr 2, 2017 15:44:14 GMT -5
Gay rights as far as marriage? Ok with it and I'm a religious guy. I lean towards government needs to stay out of the marriage debate. That's a personal thing between God and people. Abortion? Pro choice ONLY in the sense of health of mother. As a form of contraception? Nope. Because you got drunk on a Saturday night and wanted your pussy/dick licked...deal with it even if it's inconvenient and I feel the majority of abortions are because of inconvenience to one's life. You wanna fuck? Be man or woman enough to deal with consequence. Contrary to popular belief...we can control our urges.
Drugs? Marijuana...that's it. There is no medicinal benefit of coke heroin etc.
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Post by Hey Man on Apr 2, 2017 15:48:54 GMT -5
Gay rights as far as marriage? Ok with it and I'm a religious guy. I lean towards government needs to stay out of the marriage debate. That's a personal thing between God and people. Abortion? Pro choice ONLY in the sense of health of mother. As a form of contraception? Nope. Because you got drunk on a Saturday night and wanted your pussy/dick licked...deal with it even if it's inconvenient and I feel the majority of abortions are because of inconvenience to one's life. You wanna fuck? Be man or woman enough to deal with consequence. Contrary to popular belief...we can control our urges. Drugs? Marijuana...that's it. There is no medicinal benefit of coke heroin etc. Fair enough. I trust you are not like you some conservatives though and are pro-life even in cases of rape or incest? By the way, I am only asking this because we had someone here who felt this way - do you think black people and Mexicans are lesser people compared to white? Here is his exact quote - what's your take away from it? How many African, Mexican, or Muslim names do you see on the Declaration of Independence? A big fat fucking ZERO! Although I agree with most of the founding father's vision of our new nation, I disagree with the part where they say,"All men are created equal."
Some were created to be murderous, welfare sucking, crack dealers, some were created to be sweaty, stinking, dope smugglers, and some were created to be Christian hating, terrorist, goat fuckers. Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson both said that they welcome all immigrants but they must be productive citizens and conform to our beliefs and values, not the other way around. |
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Post by CaboChris on Apr 2, 2017 16:08:10 GMT -5
I saw that. Being as I'm half-Mexican...I can't agree lol!
I can't really comment on that as I'm new here. I dont know the dynamics but I'm not a fan of racial bigotry...masked at "just being honest" or "free speech". There's no place for it in a civil society. Whatever issue one has, lies with YOU. Deal with yourself. Stop blaming others. For me personally, I don't like illegal immigration. Is that the person crossing illegally's fault? Nope. I would do the same....it's our government and the system's fault that allows the condition not the person. Racism focuses on the individual.
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Post by Hey Man on Apr 2, 2017 16:16:32 GMT -5
I saw that. Being as I'm half-Mexican...I can't agree lol! I can't really comment on that as I'm new here. I dont know the dynamics but I'm not a fan of racial bigotry...masked at "just being honest" or "free speech". There's no place for it in a civil society. Whatever issue one has, lies with YOU. Deal with yourself. Stop blaming others. For me personally, I don't like illegal immigration. Is that the person crossing illegally's fault? Nope. I would do the same....it's our government and the system's fault that allows the condition not the person. Racism focuses on the individual. Oh he was all about masking his racism and bigotry with "just being honest" and it "keeping it real". He would also say that TRUE conservatives agree with him. So if Trump doesn't deliver in what you want by 2020 and is deemed to be a complete failure, will you vote Democrat depending on who is running and if they want to go single payer or do you feel that Trump will need two terms to do what he claimed? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 16:29:47 GMT -5
Gay rights as far as marriage? Ok with it and I'm a religious guy. I lean towards government needs to stay out of the marriage debate. That's a personal thing between God and people. Abortion? Pro choice ONLY in the sense of health of mother. As a form of contraception? Nope. Because you got drunk on a Saturday night and wanted your pussy/dick licked...deal with it even if it's inconvenient and I feel the majority of abortions are because of inconvenience to one's life. You wanna fuck? Be man or woman enough to deal with consequence. Contrary to popular belief...we can control our urges. Drugs? Marijuana...that's it. There is no medicinal benefit of coke heroin etc. Fair enough. I trust you are not like you some conservatives though and are pro-life even in cases of rape or incest? By the way, I am only asking this because we had someone here who felt this way - do you think black people and Mexicans are lesser people compared to white? Here is his exact quote - what's your take away from it? How many African, Mexican, or Muslim names do you see on the Declaration of Independence? A big fat fucking ZERO! Although I agree with most of the founding father's vision of our new nation, I disagree with the part where they say,"All men are created equal."
Some were created to be murderous, welfare sucking, crack dealers, some were created to be sweaty, stinking, dope smugglers, and some were created to be Christian hating, terrorist, goat fuckers. Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson both said that they welcome all immigrants but they must be productive citizens and conform to our beliefs and values, not the other way around.
If the pregnancy is a result of Rape or Incest...Then Abortion might be the answer...If not for one problem... In cases of Rape or Incest the woman has to be a willing partner...Otherwise her ovaries would block the Essence of the attacker...So if they get pregnant it wasn't rape....And not available for an abortion |
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Post by Hey Man on Apr 2, 2017 16:51:35 GMT -5
Fair enough. I trust you are not like you some conservatives though and are pro-life even in cases of rape or incest? By the way, I am only asking this because we had someone here who felt this way - do you think black people and Mexicans are lesser people compared to white? Here is his exact quote - what's your take away from it? How many African, Mexican, or Muslim names do you see on the Declaration of Independence? A big fat fucking ZERO! Although I agree with most of the founding father's vision of our new nation, I disagree with the part where they say,"All men are created equal."
Some were created to be murderous, welfare sucking, crack dealers, some were created to be sweaty, stinking, dope smugglers, and some were created to be Christian hating, terrorist, goat fuckers. Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson both said that they welcome all immigrants but they must be productive citizens and conform to our beliefs and values, not the other way around.
If the pregnancy is a result of Rape or Incest...Then Abortion might be the answer...If not for one problem... In cases of Rape or Incest the woman has to be a willing partner...Otherwise her ovaries would block the Essence of the attacker...So if they get pregnant it wasn't rape....And not available for an abortion Now I know you are trolling. |
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Post by Cducharme on Apr 2, 2017 17:24:38 GMT -5
Gay rights as far as marriage? Ok with it and I'm a religious guy. I lean towards government needs to stay out of the marriage debate. That's a personal thing between God and people. Abortion? Pro choice ONLY in the sense of health of mother. As a form of contraception? Nope. Because you got drunk on a Saturday night and wanted your pussy/dick licked...deal with it even if it's inconvenient and I feel the majority of abortions are because of inconvenience to one's life. You wanna fuck? Be man or woman enough to deal with consequence. Contrary to popular belief...we can control our urges. Drugs? Marijuana...that's it. There is no medicinal benefit of coke heroin etc. Fun thing about that, those things you say have no medicinal benefit? Can legally prescribed when pot can't. I'm a huge supporter of the law in (I think) Alabama where they're looking to remove the state from marriage licensing and only having them keep track of the contracts. Reasonable to me, the state shouldn't decide who can marry provided they are of age, not related, and not already married. Abortion will not be the option my wife and I would go with, but other people's doing so is literally none of my damn business, nor is it the government's. Oh and straight up legalize all drugs, that will make things safer in the long run since most overdoses are directly tied to the substances being on the fucking black market. |
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Post by Cducharme on Apr 2, 2017 17:28:13 GMT -5
Oh and immigration would be so much easier of a topic if we made work visas incredibly easy to get (such as "oh you've no criminal record and this job lined up? Here you go!") so that the undocumented can get paying into the system they're receiving the benefits people bitch about from (schools, roads, hospitals etc. until documented they already can't get welfare but try telling someone that on the internet) and suddenly we'll have less people being criminals just for being here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 21:44:22 GMT -5
Immigration would ne much easier if they just stayed home and fixed the problems they have....When you remove the downward spiral of low paid workers at the bottom...The job market tightens up...This creates competition for employees...Wages rise, benifits rise as retention becomes important...But 59 José in an apartment making 6 dollars an hour defeats the worker...This is why Unions went for Trump....Stay the fuck home!!!
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Post by Cducharme on Apr 3, 2017 6:21:28 GMT -5
Except those menial jobs don't go away if there's no one to work for real cheap they just get more expensive as do to goods those low wage workers produce causing prices to rise to meet the artificial demand. Ya know basic economics
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 10:35:19 GMT -5
Except those menial jobs don't go away if there's no one to work for real cheap they just get more expensive as do to goods those low wage workers produce causing prices to rise to meet the artificial demand. Ya know basic economics See I disagree with you there...Yes they become higher in price...That's because the workers at the bottom are earning more...It's natural inflationary cycle...As the cost goes upward, so do salaries...When salary's don't match need you have people leaving to find better ground...Actually basic economic says that rising wages due to inflation at the bottom is nessasary for a robust middle class...It's all connected...Prices rise at the bottom so tomato pickers can earn more...Tomato's become more expensive...The cost is passed on to the market...The market says we want tomato's...We need higher wages to afford them....The burden should always be driven through the market place...We are now in the flip side of the economic cycle...In the 80's you had Supply side...Which was trickle down...It works but only for so long once the cycle begins to become to top heavy (like it is low with the rich getting richer) You need to switch to a demand or trickle up...In basic terms you squeeze top down first, then bottom up secondly...Right now economically we need both price and wage inflation at the bottom to spur growth...Reduce immigration at the bottom, wages will tighten up...We will get if controlled correctly a most jump upward in prices and wages...The opposite of trickle down will occure...Trickle up! |
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Post by Cducharme on Apr 3, 2017 10:59:28 GMT -5
Except those menial jobs don't go away if there's no one to work for real cheap they just get more expensive as do to goods those low wage workers produce causing prices to rise to meet the artificial demand. Ya know basic economics See I disagree with you there...Yes they become higher in price...That's because the workers at the bottom are earning more...It's natural inflationary cycle...As the cost goes upward, so do salaries...When salary's don't match need you have people leaving to find better ground...Actually basic economic says that rising wages due to inflation at the bottom is nessasary for a robust middle class...It's all connected...Prices rise at the bottom so tomato pickers can earn more...Tomato's become more expensive...The cost is passed on to the market...The market says we want tomato's...We need higher wages to afford them....The burden should always be driven through the market place...We are now in the flip side of the economic cycle...In the 80's you had Supply side...Which was trickle down...It works but only for so long once the cycle begins to become to top heavy (like it is low with the rich getting richer) You need to switch to a demand or trickle up...In basic terms you squeeze top down first, then bottom up secondly...Right now economically we need both price and wage inflation at the bottom to spur growth...Reduce immigration at the bottom, wages will tighten up...We will get if controlled correctly a most jump upward in prices and wages...The opposite of trickle down will occure...Trickle up! What you're describing which is artificial inflation of wages or goods is the kind of government meddling that always backfires, it's the opposite of allowing a market to sort it out. It's relatively simple, when there's immigration coming in allowing for cheap labor costs of goods and services can go down relative to income, but when you're driving those costs up you'll NEVER see a rebound as quick with wages. This how we've come to the wage vs income disparity we're dealing with. Also you're ignoring the human element, have you done any research into the works of von Mises or the Austrian school of economics in general? We live in such a complex setup of global markets that there is no way to predict accurately a governmental intervention's full effect, because even if there's only .0000000000000000004% chance of something going wrong with a predicted scenario we now live in a world where that will come to pass with greater and greater frequency. Funnily enough one of the best explanations of the economic system is from a professional wrestler. |
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