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Post by Hey Man on Dec 2, 2023 13:01:53 GMT -5
With the streaming of the concert last night, it wasn't surprising at all that it was the same fucking boring show - although I feel bad for the people that flew in from other countries, paid a small fortune and didn't get anything special. Maybe that explains why the audience was asleep. Was last night's show streamed? Or do you just mean on YouTube? It will be great if there's 0 different about tonight's show besides the goodbye (it's only for now) speech... www.kissfaq.com/forum24/viewtopic.php?t=159014We shall see tonight. Enjoy Dirty Honey.
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Post by Joma on Dec 2, 2023 13:50:12 GMT -5
Was last night's show streamed? Or do you just mean on YouTube? It will be great if there's 0 different about tonight's show besides the goodbye (it's only for now) speech... www.kissfaq.com/forum24/viewtopic.php?t=159014We shall see tonight. Enjoy Dirty Honey. Thanks, hope to! Hilarious that there was absolutely nothing 'special' about the show last night. I will listen to Sonic Shit in its entirety, minus whatever the Space Lightning song Tommy does, if it's the same deal tonight. That's awesome for all the wrong reasons!
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 2, 2023 14:03:23 GMT -5
Thanks, hope to! Hilarious that there was absolutely nothing 'special' about the show last night. I will listen to Sonic Shit in its entirety, minus whatever the Space Lightning song Tommy does, if it's the same deal tonight. That's awesome for all the wrong reasons! I just don't get it at all. I would be FULL of ideas of things that I would want to do for the fans if I had been doing what KISS has done for 50 years. I can just imagine the meeting with Paul, Gene and Doc - someone else in the room says so are we gonna do anything special for the fans since these are the final shows? Nope - business as usual is the response because that is what the fans want. We hear and obey. It is just pathetic. One thing I am glad about is that Ace, Peter and Bruce have all come out and said there was never any invite. Now sure that could all be to make tonight more of a surprise, but I wouldn't bet on it. If former members appear tonight - I will give Paul and Gene credit. I actually hope they prove me wrong and have done the right thing here.
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Post by Joma on Dec 2, 2023 14:08:29 GMT -5
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 2, 2023 14:14:35 GMT -5
LOL. I called it that he would probably be there. Not Bruce though...to be determined of course later tonight.
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Post by kissoff on Dec 2, 2023 14:34:14 GMT -5
Thanks, hope to! Hilarious that there was absolutely nothing 'special' about the show last night. I will listen to Sonic Shit in its entirety, minus whatever the Space Lightning song Tommy does, if it's the same deal tonight. That's awesome for all the wrong reasons! Are you still listening to SAY YEAH on a loop.
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 2, 2023 16:19:07 GMT -5
It is interesting seeing all the comments from people who were there that the place was full of casual fans. People who came late/left early, clearly didn't know the songs, etc.
While I have always maintained that KISS concerts have been more casuals than die hard fans, I expected the final two shows would be die hard fans primarily.
I guess this proves that Much Too Soon was wrong about the demographic of KISS concerts as I kept telling him.
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Post by Joma on Dec 2, 2023 16:33:58 GMT -5
I woulda thought the overpriced last show (of the tour) woulda been more Kold Gin fans than randos. Good to hear otherwise...
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Post by kissoff on Dec 2, 2023 16:43:40 GMT -5
It is interesting seeing all the comments from people who were there that the place was full of casual fans. People who came late/left early, clearly didn't know the songs, etc. While I have always maintained that KISS concerts have been more casuals than die hard fans, I expected the final two shows would be die hard fans primarily. I guess this proves that Much Too Soon was wrong about the demographic of KISS concerts as I kept telling him. Well don't forget there's at least one FAQuer who refers to MTS as Much Too Stupid.
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 2, 2023 17:09:27 GMT -5
It is interesting seeing all the comments from people who were there that the place was full of casual fans. People who came late/left early, clearly didn't know the songs, etc. While I have always maintained that KISS concerts have been more casuals than die hard fans, I expected the final two shows would be die hard fans primarily. I guess this proves that Much Too Soon was wrong about the demographic of KISS concerts as I kept telling him. Well don't forget there's at least one FAQuer who refers to MTS as Much Too Stupid. I just never understood his dying need to prove that Kold Gin was more successful than KISS.
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Post by kissoff on Dec 2, 2023 18:33:38 GMT -5
Well don't forget there's at least one FAQuer who refers to MTS as Much Too Stupid. I just never understood his dying need to prove that Kold Gin was more successful than KISS. I guess maybe he had a dying need to prove he's a douche.
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 2, 2023 18:50:23 GMT -5
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Post by Margo Leadbetter on Dec 2, 2023 18:55:46 GMT -5
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 2, 2023 23:17:40 GMT -5
So it was the same bullshit show that has been done a million times. Nothing special for the last show at all. It just makes no sense, especially from a band like KISS who were all about being the band that they never saw.
It was just absolutely pathetic and embarrassing for long time fans that rightfully wanted a real special event tonight.
Well at least I don't have to say that I was wrong and Paul and Gene delivered tonight on the surprises, which fans wanted - but didn't come.
While I have been critical of current KISS - the band overall was an important part of my life and there was that hope that they would deliver something tonight that even I would say was impressive, but they just proved at the end of it all - they don't give a fuck about the fans. We are just ATMs.
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Post by kissoff on Dec 2, 2023 23:40:21 GMT -5
So it was the same bullshit show that has been done a million times. Nothing special for the last show at all. It just makes no sense, especially from a band like KISS who were all about being the band that they never saw. It was just absolutely pathetic and embarrassing for long time fans that rightfully wanted a real special event tonight. Well at least I don't have to say that I was wrong and Paul and Gene delivered tonight on the surprises, which fans wanted - but didn't come. While I have been critical of current KISS - the band overall was an important part of my life and there was that hope that they would deliver something tonight that even I would say was impressive, but they just proved at the end of it all - they don't give a fuck about the fans. We are just ATMs. Ya KISS has been delivering a lot more disappointment than joy since I became a fan in '77. I cut them off after the Farewell Tour and purposely never saw another show since. I will admit though if I was able I might've tried to see them in NY but I'm not and wasn't so at least that worked out right in the end. I believe P&G to be sadists until proven otherwise, which they're a hell of a long way from doing.IMO ass licking fans like Julian are part of the problem bc he enables P&G via the FAQ by not allowing fans to voice their true and valid opinions about P&G WHILST protecting his own selfish interests at the same time. Total farce all of it.
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 3, 2023 0:02:22 GMT -5
So it was the same bullshit show that has been done a million times. Nothing special for the last show at all. It just makes no sense, especially from a band like KISS who were all about being the band that they never saw. It was just absolutely pathetic and embarrassing for long time fans that rightfully wanted a real special event tonight. Well at least I don't have to say that I was wrong and Paul and Gene delivered tonight on the surprises, which fans wanted - but didn't come. While I have been critical of current KISS - the band overall was an important part of my life and there was that hope that they would deliver something tonight that even I would say was impressive, but they just proved at the end of it all - they don't give a fuck about the fans. We are just ATMs. Ya KISS has been delivering a lot more disappointment than joy since I became a fan in '77. I cut them off after the Farewell Tour and purposely never saw another show since. I will admit though if I was able I might've tried to see them in NY but I'm not and wasn't so at least that worked out right in the end. I believe P&G to be sadists until proven otherwise, which they're a hell of a long way from doing.IMO ass licking fans like Julian are part of the problem bc he enables P&G via the FAQ by not allowing fans to voice their true and valid opinions about P&G WHILST protecting his own selfish interests at the same time. Total farce. They really should have ended this 20 years ago and have just driven the band into the fucking ground more than any band in music history. Jerking off to all the money KISS has made like Much Too Soon does - does NOT negate this. Well hopefully Joma is having a great time seeing Dirty Honey.
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Post by kissoff on Dec 3, 2023 0:19:36 GMT -5
Ya KISS has been delivering a lot more disappointment than joy since I became a fan in '77. I cut them off after the Farewell Tour and purposely never saw another show since. I will admit though if I was able I might've tried to see them in NY but I'm not and wasn't so at least that worked out right in the end. I believe P&G to be sadists until proven otherwise, which they're a hell of a long way from doing.IMO ass licking fans like Julian are part of the problem bc he enables P&G via the FAQ by not allowing fans to voice their true and valid opinions about P&G WHILST protecting his own selfish interests at the same time. Total farce. They really should have ended this 20 years ago and have just driven the band into the fucking ground more than any band in music history. Jerking off to all the money KISS has made like Much Too Soon does - does NOT negate this. Well hopefully Joma is having a great time seeing Dirty Honey. YEP JOMA KICKS ASS!! Ya know I feel if Julian wanted to hit the big-time he's in perfect position to reverse field and do a book on the frauds P&G have been. He'd get rich and P&G would kinda have to answer for their bullshit, greed & lies. Obviously easier said than done but it would make history I think. Shit the way he pumps out books it could be done in no time. Maybe Ros or Gooch can help. You could even pen the Forward.
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 3, 2023 0:35:52 GMT -5
They really should have ended this 20 years ago and have just driven the band into the fucking ground more than any band in music history. Jerking off to all the money KISS has made like Much Too Soon does - does NOT negate this. Well hopefully Joma is having a great time seeing Dirty Honey. YEP JOMA KICKS ASS!! Ya know I feel if Julian wanted to hit the big-time he's in perfect position to reverse field and do a book on the frauds P&G have been. He'd get rich and P&G would kinda have to answer for their bullshit, greed & lies. Obviously easier said than done but it would make history I think. Shit the way he pumps out books it could be done in no time. Maybe Ros or Gooch can help. You could even pen the Forward. LOL. That is probably happening somewhere in the KISS fan multiverse.
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Post by Joma on Dec 3, 2023 1:05:09 GMT -5
I'm both giddy and bummed...giddy that the last Kold Gin show was a fuck all, lame ass, boring, waste of time, douchebag spectacular. But bummed I said I'd listen to Sonic Shit if they douchebagged the KGC... Sorry ears, gonna have to listen to the worst album in the catalog again...
Dirty Honey was fucking awesome. Dude can sing his ass off!
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 3, 2023 1:23:19 GMT -5
I'm both giddy and bummed...giddy that the last Kold Gin show was a fuck all, lame ass, boring, waste of time, douchebag spectacular. But bummed I said I'd listen to Sonic Shit if they douchebagged the KGC... Sorry ears, gonna have to listen to the worst album in the catalog again... Dirty Honey was fucking awesome. Dude can sing his ass off! Cool - glad you had good time. Was there an opening act or something? I look forward to your 2023 review of Sonic Boom. Seriously - it would be cool if you did a track by track breakdown. It really is amazing how much KISS fucked this up. Like they didn't even mention Eric Carr. It makes zero sense. They didn't even make speeches which is what I figured they would have done AT LEAST.
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Post by kissoff on Dec 3, 2023 1:28:25 GMT -5
I'm both giddy and bummed...giddy that the last Kold Gin show was a fuck all, lame ass, boring, waste of time, douchebag spectacular. But bummed I said I'd listen to Sonic Shit if they douchebagged the KGC... Sorry ears, gonna have to listen to the worst album in the catalog again... Dirty Honey was fucking awesome. Dude can sing his ass off! š¤£douchebag spectacular
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Post by kissoff on Dec 3, 2023 2:00:05 GMT -5
I'm both giddy and bummed...giddy that the last Kold Gin show was a fuck all, lame ass, boring, waste of time, douchebag spectacular. But bummed I said I'd listen to Sonic Shit if they douchebagged the KGC... Sorry ears, gonna have to listen to the worst album in the catalog again... Dirty Honey was fucking awesome. Dude can sing his ass off! Cool - glad you had good time. Was there an opening act or something? I look forward to your 2023 review of Sonic Boom. Seriously - it would be cool if you did a track by track breakdown. It really is amazing how much KISS fucked this up. Like they didn't even mention Eric Carr. It makes zero sense. They didn't even make speeches which is what I figured they would have done AT LEAST. SB'23 breakdown...from Joma...I would expect an entire thesis on SAY YEAH.
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 3, 2023 3:32:16 GMT -5
Can it get even more pathetic? KISS has you covered with Beth removed from the replay. Not that this is some great thing watching Eric sing Beth - while he pretends to play the piano, but it is just one more fuck up out of many tonight.
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Post by Joma on Dec 3, 2023 9:59:29 GMT -5
Cool - glad you had good time. Was there an opening act or something? Something called Austin Meade. They were fine, I guess. Didn't care for them much, but I've sat through worse. My wife went with me and she didn't know it was the opening act as she's not familiar with DH...lol. I told her I wouldn't have dragged her to see that band. I thought she'd enjoy DH, though, and she did for the most part.
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 3, 2023 13:09:26 GMT -5
Cool - glad you had good time. Was there an opening act or something? Something called Austin Meade. They were fine, I guess. Didn't care for them much, but I've sat through worse. My wife went with me and she didn't know it was the opening act as she's not familiar with DH...lol. I told her I wouldn't have dragged her to see that band. I thought she'd enjoy DH, though, and she did for the most part. Cool. Would you say DH are your favorite retro style newer band?
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Post by Joma on Dec 3, 2023 13:48:36 GMT -5
Something called Austin Meade. They were fine, I guess. Didn't care for them much, but I've sat through worse. My wife went with me and she didn't know it was the opening act as she's not familiar with DH...lol. I told her I wouldn't have dragged her to see that band. I thought she'd enjoy DH, though, and she did for the most part. Cool. Would you say DH are your favorite retro style newer band? Probably. I can't think of many others. I know there's GVF, and I don't like them because their Singer sounds exactly like Plant, whom I can't stand.
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 3, 2023 14:01:57 GMT -5
Given that KISS did absolutely NOTHING special to say goodbye - not even mention Eric Carr, it is now a fact that that Gene and Paul lied to the media - they never invited Ace and Peter with the claim that they said no. People on the FAQ actually believed this bullshit.
Not that this is some big revelation though, but just to further point out that Gene and Paul are assholes and have been lying for 50 years.
There was just no room for or intent to have a segment for celebrating the past. Bruce wasn't there either. You were just getting the same lame show one may have already seen 5 times or more. Great move by Ace, Peter and Bruce to come out and say no invite was made by Paul/Gene.
I am actually glad about this, because it shows the kind of people Gene and Paul are. They don't care about the fans and they don't give a shit about the people who helped get them to where they are.
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Post by Joma on Dec 3, 2023 15:07:33 GMT -5
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 3, 2023 15:12:26 GMT -5
He should be dead to you now.
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Post by Hey Man on Dec 3, 2023 16:40:49 GMT -5
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