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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 3, 2024 11:45:13 GMT -5
Using cannabis – either by smoking, eating or vaping it – may raise the risk for heart attacks and strokes, new research suggests.
Survey respondents who said they use cannabis, or marijuana, had a higher risk for cardiovascular problems regardless of whether they used tobacco products or had other underlying cardiovascular risk factors, the study found. The research was published Wednesday in the Journal of the American Heart Association.
"Despite common use, little is known about the risks of cannabis use and, in particular, the cardiovascular disease risks," lead study author Dr. Abra Jeffers said in a news release. Jeffers is a data analyst at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. "The perceptions of the harmfulness of smoking cannabis are decreasing, and people have not considered cannabis use dangerous to their health."
In addition, she said, "smoking cannabis – the predominant method of use – may pose additional risks because particulate matter is inhaled."
The number of people using marijuana has increased significantly in recent decades in the U.S., where its recreational use has been legalized in 24 states and the District of Columbia. In 2019, a federal survey showed more than 48 million people ages 12 and older reported using marijuana at least once – nearly double the number in 2002. On the federal level, marijuana use remains illegal.
Prior research on the link between marijuana use and heart attacks or strokes has been limited for several reasons. The number of people who smoke marijuana frequently is relatively low, most studies have been done in younger populations that are at low risk for cardiovascular disease, and many people who use marijuana also use tobacco products, making it difficult to look at the effects of marijuana independently.
In the new study, researchers analyzed survey data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for 434,104 U.S. adults from 2016 to 2020. They investigated whether the number of days of cannabis use in the past 30 days was associated with self-reported cardiovascular outcomes, including coronary heart disease, heart attacks and strokes, among the general adult population and people who had never smoked tobacco or used e-cigarettes. Researchers also investigated these associations among men under 55 and women under 65 who were at risk for heart disease.
Any marijuana use was linked to a higher risk for heart attacks and strokes, but people who used it most frequently had the highest odds. Adults who used marijuana daily had 25% higher odds of having a heart attack and 42% higher odds of stroke than people who didn't use it at all. Smoking was the most common method of cannabis use, followed by eating or vaping it.
Among men under 55 and women under 65, using marijuana resulted in a 36% higher combined odds for coronary heart disease, heart attack or stroke, regardless of whether they also used tobacco products. The odds were higher even when researchers looked only at those who had never used tobacco products or e-cigarettes.
"Cannabis smoke is not all that different from tobacco smoke, except for the psychoactive drug: THC versus nicotine," Jeffers said. "Our study shows that smoking cannabis has significant cardiovascular risks, just like smoking tobacco. This is particularly important because cannabis use is increasing, and conventional tobacco use is decreasing."
Dr. Robert L. Page II, who chaired the writing group for a 2020 American Heart Association scientific statement on marijuana's effects on cardiovascular health, said in the release that the new findings should be a "call to action for all practitioners" about "a potentially hazardous combination." Page is a professor of clinical pharmacy, medicine and physical medicine at the Skaggs School of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences at the University of Colorado School of Medicine in Aurora. He was not involved in the new study.
"As cannabis use continues to grow in legality and access across the U.S., practitioners and clinicians need to remember to assess cannabis use at each patient encounter in order to have a nonjudgmental, shared decision conversation about potential cardiovascular risks and ways to reduce those risks," Page said
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 3, 2024 19:58:26 GMT -5
I am sure those who use marijuana will be just as concerned of any health dangers as those are who drink and smoke cigarettes, which are infinitely worse.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 3, 2024 20:21:39 GMT -5
I am sure those who use marijuana will be just as concerned of any health dangers as those are who drink and smoke cigarettes, which are infinitely worse. pot is as bad as drinking. Study says its dangerous even if you smoke it just once a month. I can drink a few beers a couple time a week and be healthy.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 3, 2024 20:26:25 GMT -5
I am sure those who use marijuana will be just as concerned of any health dangers as those are who drink and smoke cigarettes, which are infinitely worse. pot is as bad as drinking. Study says its dangerous even if you smoke it just once a month. I can drink a few beers a couple time a week and be healthy. No, it isn't. Not even close. Even I know that and I don't do either.
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Post by tatersalad on Mar 3, 2024 20:38:13 GMT -5
Smoking anything is bad for you. Inhaling smoke in your lungs is bad for you, this shouldn't come as news. There are lots of sketchy vape products out there too. However, this is the first I've heard of edibles being dangerous.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 3, 2024 20:39:21 GMT -5
pot is as bad as drinking. Study says its dangerous even if you smoke it just once a month. I can drink a few beers a couple time a week and be healthy. No, it isn't. Not even close. Even I know that and I don't do either. I guess you ignore all these studies that come out. Pot is VERY dangerous. Causes alot of mental issues as well.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 3, 2024 21:02:38 GMT -5
No, it isn't. Not even close. Even I know that and I don't do either. I guess you ignore all these studies that come out. Pot is VERY dangerous. Causes alot of mental issues as well. It is not VERY dangerous. Many people use it as well for health purposes. It has it risks like anything else on the market. I would rather my kid smoked pot over drinking. That shit is poison ultimately and dangerous for those that drink heavily. The endless deaths and destroyed families due to alcohol is far worse than any argument you can make against pot.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 3, 2024 21:31:29 GMT -5
About the only health benefit is has is it might help take away pain and there hasn't really been a real study that shows it works for pain. Young people have been lied to that smoking weed is healthy. But its not. I have several members of my family who smoke weed and theyre either dead or have serious health problems.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 3, 2024 21:47:07 GMT -5
About the only health benefit is has is it might help take away pain and there hasn't really been a real study that shows it works for pain. Young people have been lied to that smoking weed is healthy. But its not. I have several members of my family who smoke weed and theyre either dead or have serious health problems. No one said it was healthy, but it absolutely has medicinal purposes that have helped millions of people in pain, etc. People don't die from pot. There are other factors at play there. According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), there has yet to be a drug overdose death solely attributed to cannabis. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also states that while symptoms of too much THC might include extreme confusion, emotional distress, increased blood pressure, heart rate, severe nausea, or unintentional injury, “a fatal overdose is unlikely.” If you are going to have some kind of vice - pot is by far the best and safest one vs alcohol and cigarette smoking.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 3, 2024 21:55:04 GMT -5
About the only health benefit is has is it might help take away pain and there hasn't really been a real study that shows it works for pain. Young people have been lied to that smoking weed is healthy. But its not. I have several members of my family who smoke weed and theyre either dead or have serious health problems. No one said it was healthy, but it absolutely has medicinal purposes that have helped millions of people in pain, etc. People don't die from pot. There are other factors at play there. According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), there has yet to be a drug overdose death solely attributed to cannabis. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also states that while symptoms of too much THC might include extreme confusion, emotional distress, increased blood pressure, heart rate, severe nausea, or unintentional injury, “a fatal overdose is unlikely.” If you are going to have some kind of vice - pot is by far the best and safest one vs alcohol and cigarette smoking. Pot also makes people stupid. There was a woman in california who stabbed her BF 100 times while high on pot. Overdoses from alcohol are rare. I would much rather my kids drink than smoke weed. Most people drink in moderation. Its safer than pot.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 3, 2024 22:05:07 GMT -5
And BTW that woman in California who murdered her boyfriend got zero prison time. What happens when you have liberal politicians running your State or country.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 3, 2024 22:07:57 GMT -5
No one said it was healthy, but it absolutely has medicinal purposes that have helped millions of people in pain, etc. People don't die from pot. There are other factors at play there. According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), there has yet to be a drug overdose death solely attributed to cannabis. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also states that while symptoms of too much THC might include extreme confusion, emotional distress, increased blood pressure, heart rate, severe nausea, or unintentional injury, “a fatal overdose is unlikely.” If you are going to have some kind of vice - pot is by far the best and safest one vs alcohol and cigarette smoking. Pot also makes people stupid. There was a woman in california who stabbed her BF 100 times while high on pot. Overdoses from alcohol are rare. I would much rather my kids drink than smoke weed. Most people drink in moderation. Its safer than pot. 178,000 people die a year from alcohol just in the US. 488 deaths per day. Please show me comparable pot related deaths per year. See this is entirely your problem and it's the same with the vaccine. You sound the alarm over things that are minimal compared to other things. You see this study and go into freak out mode. Everything we consume causes cancer. Alcohol is poison. Smoking cigarettes are obviously cancer sticks. All things considered no one should be losing their mind now over pot. But certainly inform the public of any new found risks. However if you love freedom, people should be able to drink, smoke and use pot if they so choose.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 3, 2024 22:19:42 GMT -5
And BTW that woman in California who murdered her boyfriend got zero prison time. What happens when you have liberal politicians running your State or country. And even that was an incredibly rare circumstance. She was a novice to pot and took a very high dose. Even the prosecutor's medical expert agreed that she wasn't really responsible here. Basically she had a moment of insanity, which has often resulted in no prison time in other circumstances.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 3, 2024 22:34:19 GMT -5
And BTW that woman in California who murdered her boyfriend got zero prison time. What happens when you have liberal politicians running your State or country. And even that was an incredibly rare circumstance. She was a novice to pot and took a very high dose. Even the prosecutor's medical expert agreed that she wasn't really responsible here. Basically she had a moment of insanity, which has often resulted in no prison time in other circumstances. Yeah only in liberal run places she gets no time. She commits this in Texas and she might've gotten the death penalty, or life.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 3, 2024 22:35:48 GMT -5
Pot also makes people stupid. There was a woman in california who stabbed her BF 100 times while high on pot. Overdoses from alcohol are rare. I would much rather my kids drink than smoke weed. Most people drink in moderation. Its safer than pot. 178,000 people die a year from alcohol just in the US. 488 deaths per day. Please show me comparable pot related deaths per year. See this is entirely your problem and it's the same with the vaccine. You sound the alarm over things that are minimal compared to other things. You see this study and go into freak out mode. Everything we consume causes cancer. Alcohol is poison. Smoking cigarettes are obviously cancer sticks. All things considered no one should be losing their mind now over pot. But certainly inform the public of any new found risks. However if you love freedom, people should be able to drink, smoke and use pot if they so choose. Pot is a gateway drug. It should be illegal. If you like weed so much then how come you dont do it yourself? You said its healthy so why not?
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 3, 2024 22:58:10 GMT -5
178,000 people die a year from alcohol just in the US. 488 deaths per day. Please show me comparable pot related deaths per year. See this is entirely your problem and it's the same with the vaccine. You sound the alarm over things that are minimal compared to other things. You see this study and go into freak out mode. Everything we consume causes cancer. Alcohol is poison. Smoking cigarettes are obviously cancer sticks. All things considered no one should be losing their mind now over pot. But certainly inform the public of any new found risks. However if you love freedom, people should be able to drink, smoke and use pot if they so choose. Pot is a gateway drug. It should be illegal. If you like weed so much then how come you dont do it yourself? You said its healthy so why not? LOL. Yet alcohol infinitely causes more death and destruction of lives. Pot is not even remotely close in the same universe as alcohol and why that should be illegal if one wants to make that argument. But hey, you like to drink - so don't take away your beer. If it was reported that one person died from taking a normal dose of Advil in a never seen before one in a billion side effect occurrence, your response would be - we need to make Advil illegal and take it off the shelf. That is how your brain works.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 3, 2024 23:15:53 GMT -5
So again, why don't you consume weed yourself?
It should be illegal just because it makes people stupid. There is no good reason why it should be legal. We dont need a bunch of pot heads in this country.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 3, 2024 23:20:50 GMT -5
So again, why don't you consume weed yourself? It just wasn't something I ever cared about. Same with drinking. Also I have epilepsy, so better to just not partake in anything.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 3, 2024 23:30:10 GMT -5
So again, why don't you consume weed yourself? It just wasn't something I ever cared about. Same with drinking. Also I have epilepsy, so better to just not partake in anything. So I'm trying to figure out where are the actual health benefits? If its bad on the heart and causes strokes then.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 3, 2024 23:48:26 GMT -5
It just wasn't something I ever cared about. Same with drinking. Also I have epilepsy, so better to just not partake in anything. So I'm trying to figure out where are the actual health benefits? If its bad on the heart and causes strokes then. Well maybe if you weren't too busy going down tinfoil hat conspiracy rabbit holes, you might have found out that people use it for reducing incredible pain like people with cancer, multiple sclerosis, arthritis, etc. where nothing else has been able to help with. In addition to help with anxiety and a host of other mental health issues. It has been the answer to pain and suffering for millions of people. Everything you do or consume has risks. If I had incredible pain and nothing but marijuana could help with that pain, I wouldn't give a fuck about the potential risks. The Diet Coke I drink is already killing me slowly.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 4, 2024 0:42:06 GMT -5
Like another poster mentioned, any smoke you inhale goes into the lungs.
alcohol numbs pain too.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 4, 2024 0:43:46 GMT -5
Like another poster mentioned, any smoke you inhale goes into the lungs. alcohol numbs pain too. You can do edibles, etc. You want someone with cancer to drink their pain away?
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 4, 2024 0:55:58 GMT -5
Like another poster mentioned, any smoke you inhale goes into the lungs. alcohol numbs pain too. You can do edibles, etc. You want someone with cancer to drink their pain away? More research is needed to know whether marijuana works better than other options to manage pain.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 4, 2024 1:01:44 GMT -5
You can do edibles, etc. You want someone with cancer to drink their pain away? More research is needed to know whether marijuana works better than other options to manage pain. That's the whole point. People have tried everything and marijuana was the only thing that worked. Why do you care anyway? You don't think alcohol causes heart and stroke issue? You don't care though, because you need your Pabst Blue Ribbon.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 4, 2024 1:08:21 GMT -5
More research is needed to know whether marijuana works better than other options to manage pain. Why do you care anyway? You don't think alcohol causes heart and stroke issue? You don't care though, because you need your Pabst Blue Ribbon. Great beer, but I usually drink lite beer or Samuel Adams.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 4, 2024 1:10:27 GMT -5
Why do you care anyway? You don't think alcohol causes heart and stroke issue? You don't care though, because you need your Pabst Blue Ribbon. Great beer, but I usually drink lite beer or Samuel Adams. I was actually joking, because even in Canada we know that Pabst Blue Ribbon is a white trash beer.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 4, 2024 1:20:22 GMT -5
Great beer, but I usually drink lite beer or Samuel Adams. I was actually joking, because even in Canada we know that Pabst Blue Ribbon is a white trash beer. Racist lol. I am a former bartender. You would be surprised of how many college people drink it. Its sold everywhere around here. Restaurants even have that kind on tap. My late grandfather drank it in the 70's and 80's.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 4, 2024 1:22:50 GMT -5
I was actually joking, because even in Canada we know that Pabst Blue Ribbon is a white trash beer. Racist lol. I am a former bartender. You would be surprised of how many college people drink it. Its sold everywhere around here. Restaurants even have that kind on tap. My late grandfather drank it in the 70's and 80's. Because it is cheap as fuck. If you just want to get drunk - buy cheap. Of course high school kids and college kids are gonna drink it. They can afford it.
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Post by Psychocreature on Mar 4, 2024 1:41:30 GMT -5
Racist lol. I am a former bartender. You would be surprised of how many college people drink it. Its sold everywhere around here. Restaurants even have that kind on tap. My late grandfather drank it in the 70's and 80's. Because it is cheap as fuck. If you just want to get drunk - buy cheap. Of course high school kids and college kids are gonna drink it. They can afford it. Its cheap but its a great tasting beer. Tastes better than Budweiser. Old Milwaukee also is a smooth great tasting beer.
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Post by kissoff on Mar 4, 2024 1:48:40 GMT -5
Great beer, but I usually drink lite beer or Samuel Adams. I was actually joking, because even in Canada we know that Pabst Blue Ribbon is a white trash beer. And it tastes terrible, absolutely disgusting flavor, worst I've ever experienced. Wouldn't have drank it for free.
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