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Post by Hey Man on Mar 28, 2024 15:56:14 GMT -5
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Post by battra on Mar 28, 2024 16:24:45 GMT -5
I said what I said.
In fairness, Calling Dr. Love is pretty damned good.
But past that, nah, any quality he was "responsible" for after that was aided by others.
(NOTE: On Dressed to Kill he brought in a couple oldies to fill out the record.)
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Post by Joma on Mar 28, 2024 17:01:07 GMT -5
Calling Dr Love is a bottom 5 70s Gene tune IMO...all the Gene tunes on the next several albums might be better.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 28, 2024 17:09:15 GMT -5
Larger Than Life is great. At least in the context of KISS, who really haven't done anything truly great by other band standards.
And while sure Gene had co-writers on other songs - not all of them were songs by others that Gene just tossed his name on because he added a word to the song.
Of course his 78 is strong as well, but I know that I am in the minority there.
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Post by battra on Mar 29, 2024 13:18:30 GMT -5
Larger Than Life is great. At least in the context of KISS, who really haven't done anything truly great by other band standards. And while sure Gene had co-writers on other songs - not all of them were songs by others that Gene just tossed his name on because he added a word to the song. Of course his 78 is strong as well, but I know that I am in the minority there. Larger than Life is terrible. |
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 29, 2024 13:46:36 GMT -5
Larger Than Life is great. At least in the context of KISS, who really haven't done anything truly great by other band standards. And while sure Gene had co-writers on other songs - not all of them were songs by others that Gene just tossed his name on because he added a word to the song. Of course his 78 is strong as well, but I know that I am in the minority there. Larger than Life is terrible. It is fantastic. Even if you are not a fan of the song - to say it is "terrible" is ridiculous. What Gene songs do you think are good if not great after 1974? Hell what Paul songs do you think are actually great after 1974? |
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Post by Joma on Mar 29, 2024 14:00:40 GMT -5
I'm trying to come up with worse 70s Gene tunes than Calling Dr. Love...and it's a challenge.
I can understand people saying Two Timer and Ladies In Waiting, but I prefer both to it. Like both Great Expectaions and Sweet Pain to it. Maybe Love Em Leave Em is worse....maybe. the rest of the songs onbthat album I like better. Got Love For Sale might come close, but I'd still take it. The rest of the Gene songs on Love Gun absolutely smoke it a hundred times over. Same with LTL. Same with the Dynasty tunes. Off his solo album, only When You Wish. All the others are better.
If I was a hot taker, I'd say Dr Love sucks. But it doesn't suck. It's just criminally overrated. The main lick is pretty cool, but the lyrics are meh and the chorus sucks and Dr Love sounds fucking stupid.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 29, 2024 14:07:36 GMT -5
I'm trying to come up with worse 70s Gene tunes than Calling Dr. Love...and it's a challenge. I can understand people saying Two Timer and Ladies In Waiting, but I prefer both to it. Like both Great Expectaions and Sweet Pain to it. Maybe Love Em Leave Em is worse....maybe. the rest of the songs onbthat album I like better. Got Love For Sale might come close, but I'd still take it. The rest of the Gene songs on Love Gun absolutely smoke it a hundred times over. Same with LTL. Same with the Dynasty tunes. Off his solo album, only When You Wish. All the others are better. If I was a hot taker, I'd say Dr Love sucks. But it doesn't suck. It's just criminally overrated. The main lick is pretty cool, but the lyrics are meh and the chorus sucks and Dr Love sounds fucking stupid. Dr. Love isn't great, but it is one of those not a real hit song KISS hit songs. I prefer the songs you mentioned over it as well. I agree with you about the song overall. |
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Post by battra on Mar 29, 2024 14:13:12 GMT -5
Larger than Life is terrible. It is fantastic. Even if you are not a fan of the song - to say it is "terrible" is ridiculous. What Gene songs do you think are good if not great after 1974? Hell what Paul songs do you think are actually great after 1974? Gene- good-Dr. love. Paul Great- God of thunder, Detroit rock city, hard luck woman, love gun, I was made for loving you, Shandi, is that you, lick it up, damn near every single in the 80’s. Not saying he hasn’t made crap, but he’s done loads of quality. |
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 29, 2024 14:27:24 GMT -5
It is fantastic. Even if you are not a fan of the song - to say it is "terrible" is ridiculous. What Gene songs do you think are good if not great after 1974? Hell what Paul songs do you think are actually great after 1974? Gene- good-Dr. love. Paul Great- God of thunder, Detroit rock city, hard luck woman, love gun, I was made for loving you, Shandi, is that you, lick it up, damn near every single in the 80’s. Not saying he hasn’t made crap, but he’s done loads of quality. I will give you the 70's stuff up to Dynasty. Shandi is dogshit as is most of Paul's 80's stuff after LIU. Hide Your Heart is musical cancer along with Crazy Crazy Nights, Uh All Night, Forever, etc. |
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Post by Joma on Mar 29, 2024 14:41:41 GMT -5
Calling Dr Love is better than the song Lick It Up and I Was Made. Probably better than Hard Luck Women, too.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 29, 2024 14:45:41 GMT -5
Calling Dr Love is better than the song Lick It Up and I Was Made. Probably better than Hard Luck Women, too. What do you think of Ladies Room? |
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Post by Joma on Mar 29, 2024 14:51:51 GMT -5
Calling Dr Love is better than the song Lick It Up and I Was Made. Probably better than Hard Luck Women, too. What do you think of Ladies Room? Best Gene song on the album by far. Probably the second best tune on the album behind Mr. Speed. |
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 29, 2024 15:00:51 GMT -5
What do you think of Ladies Room? Best Gene song on the album by far. Probably the second best tune on the album behind Mr. Speed. Where does Baby Driver rank on the album? I take it you don't have a Steve like hate for Peter Criss songs. |
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Post by Joma on Mar 29, 2024 15:02:43 GMT -5
Best Gene song on the album by far. Probably the second best tune on the album behind Mr. Speed. Where does Baby Driver rank on the album? I take it you don't have a Steve like hate for Peter Criss songs. I dig it, but not necessarily a fave. Probably like it better than CDL, HLW, and LE&LE. |
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Post by KISS79 on Mar 29, 2024 16:10:53 GMT -5
DR. LOVE was a TOP 20 Hit was it not?
The HITS have been played to death & I'm sick of R&RAN, SIOL, IWMFLY, even FIREHOUSE. I think ALMOST HUMAN should have been played Live.
That's why I'm huge on the COTN/LIU tours they played 4/6 songs off each LP consistently thru out the tour.
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