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Post by Hey Man on Feb 2, 2015 16:11:23 GMT -5
Name your top 20 best drummers - if you want to exceed 20, that's fine.
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 2, 2015 16:28:22 GMT -5
1. Carl Palmer 2. Bill Bruford 3. Barriemore Barlow 4. Phil Collins 5. Bill Kreutzmann 6. Mickey Hart 7. Jerome "Bigfoot" Brailey 8. Gavin Harrison 9. Roger Meadows Taylor 10. Ginger Baker 11. Stewart Copeland 12. Clem Burke 13. Steve Gadd 14. Ringo Starr 15. John Densmore 16. Mick Tucker 17. Clive Bunker 18. Bill Ward 19. Nicko McBrain 20. John Bonham Does ranking also indicate drum ability? In other words, is Phil Collins a better drummer than John Bonham or just your preference. |
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 2, 2015 16:48:17 GMT -5
Does ranking also indicate drum ability? In other words, is Phil Collins a better drummer than John Bonham or just your preference. A mixture of both. My personal #1 would be Bruford but Palmer is clearly technically superior to... anyone. And Phil Collins is so much better than Bonham it isn't funny. He was pretty fucking terrible playing with Led Zeppelin ironically.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 16:49:34 GMT -5
In no particular order, my 20 favorite drummers are:
Ringo Starr
Peter Criss
Eric Carr
Tommy Lee
Carmine Appice
Joe X. Dube
Roger Taylor
Mick Tucker
Bun E. Carlos
Dave Grohl
Barry Brandt
John Bonham
Keith Moon
Andy Sturmer
Dave Clark
Charlie Watts
Neal Smith
Anton Fig
Joey Kramer
Eric Singer
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 18:19:27 GMT -5
Queen is my favorite band (obviously). However, as much as I love Roger's voice and the few songs he wrote in the band - his drumming, while obviously great at it - never did much for me. And I never see anyone talk about his playing, really. Then again, nobody talks much about drummers outside of Bonham, Peart, etc. You won't hear Joey Kramer, Bill Ward, Peter Criss, Charlie Watts, etc. There's 3-5 truly recognized great ones that everyone heaps praise on and the rest are not talked about, perhaps because people just don't care to discuss drummers? I normally see people talk about 50 greatest guitarists or singers than drummers. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 19:12:38 GMT -5
Some of my favourite drummers (in no particular order); Clem Burke Terry Chambers Cedric Sharpley John Coghlan Mick Tucker Barry Brandt Bryan Holmes Jerry Nolan Johnny Dee Kelly Keagy Roger Taylor (DD) Cozy Powell Richard Hodgkinson Phil Collins Ringo Starr Herm Kovac Exalt for Johnny Dee! (And Jerry Nolan.) |
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Post by B5Erik on Feb 2, 2015 20:52:44 GMT -5
Buddy RichAfter that it doesn't really matter.  OK, there are and have been a ton of great drummers, but I haven't heard all of them - Carl Palmer, for example, hasn't really played in bands that I particularly like, so I'm not familiar with his work. But if LED says he's great, then I have zero doubt that he is. Some of my favorites... Tommy Aldridge Eric Singer (1986-2000) Vinnie Appice Dave Alford Nicko McBrain Clive Burr Simon Phillips Barriemore Barlow (Who I always liked from the first Yngwie album, but his work with Tull is really outstanding.) Jeff Martin Bobby Rondinelli Stewart Copeland (I'm not a big fan of the Police, but he's a great drummer.) Jason Bonham John Bonham Kenny Aronoff Ian Paice Brian Downey That's just off the top of my head, but that's a pretty good list.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 21:30:22 GMT -5
Can't be arsed ranking them. The top three are my favorites:
Bill Ward
John Bonham
Ringo Starr
Stewart Copeland
Ginger Baker
Charlie Watts
Joey Kramer
Phil Collins
Nicko McBrain
Roger Taylor
Cozy Powell
Mick Woodmansey
Ian Paice
John Densmore
Michael Giles
Lee Kerslake
Nick Mason
Brian Downey
Alex Van Halen
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 2, 2015 22:39:13 GMT -5
One fellow not on anyone's list so far who is otherwise a bit off the radar is Matt Chamberlain.
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Post by B5Erik on Feb 2, 2015 23:16:16 GMT -5
I haven't heard all of them - Carl Palmer, for example, hasn't really played in bands that I particularly like, so I'm not familiar with his work. But if LED says he's great, then I have zero doubt that he is. I went with rock drummers, otherwise jazz guys would have made up half the list with Buddy tops of course. Buddy Rich's favorite rock drummer you ask? Carl Palmer.  About the only rock drummer he had anything nice to say about. They actually ended up extremely close friends. Palmer worshipped him. As he should have. Buddy was on a level all his own. I was lucky enough to see Buddy Rich live at least 3 times, but I can't remember the 70's shows, so I don't know if it was once or twice. I got to say, "Hi," and shake his hand before a Disneyland gig around 1984 or so. I wish I had a video camera back then - those shows were phenomenal. (The best I saw was at the San Diego Zoo in their amphitheater in June of 1983 - Buddy played to a packed house and he and his band played a blistering set.) |
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 2, 2015 23:50:12 GMT -5
In no order:
Denny Carmassi
Jerry Shirley
Ian Paice
John Bonham
Billy Cobham
Simon Kirke
Cozy Powell
Terry Bozzio
Tommy Aldridge
Jan Hammer
Jeff Porcaro
Bobby Chouinard
Keith Moon
Lenny White
Jim Fox
Corky Laing
Ansley Dunbar
Jason Bonham
Brian Tichy
Mike Mangini
Pat Torpey
James Kottak
Ken Mary
Alex Van Halen
Steve Gorman
Brad Wilk
Matt Cameron
Jeff Burrows
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 10:09:02 GMT -5
No order:
Jeff Porcaro
Carl Palmer
Bill Bruford
Steve Gadd
Bernard Purdie
Joe Morello
Buddy Rich
Neil Peart
Phil Collins
Chester Thompson
John Bonham
Terry Bozzio
Vinnie Coliauta
Stewart Copeland
Hal Blaine
Nick Mason
Jim Keltner
Ginger Baker
Keith Moon
Dave Lombardo
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 10:12:44 GMT -5
I've always tried Googling any discussion on Taylor's drumming only to come out with little to no results. I can find discussion on Criss or Ward and a couple others. I think Taylor is an overlooked drummer. Perhaps it was that the average Joe couldn't distinguish any style he had.
Even on the Queen boards he's under-discussed. I don't think drumming is that discussed though.
I don't know if Kramer could play like Criss, though. Then again seeing Kramer's solos actually sound a lot like Criss in a way.
Your opinion on Criss' playing aside - it's hard to dismiss his influence. If not for his playing but just by being in such a huge band so by default causing influence.
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 3, 2015 10:38:49 GMT -5
No order: Jeff Porcaro Carl Palmer Bill Bruford Steve Gadd Bernard Purdie Joe Morello Buddy Rich Neil Peart Phil Collins Chester Thompson John Bonham Terry Bozzio Vinnie Coliauta Stewart Copeland Hal Blaine Nick Mason Jim Keltner Ginger Baker Keith Moon Dave Lombardo You sir are a man of exquisite taste. Beyond a couple of 80's guys, you don't like my taste in drummers? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 10:43:09 GMT -5
No order: Jeff Porcaro Carl Palmer Bill Bruford Steve Gadd Bernard Purdie Joe Morello Buddy Rich Neil Peart Phil Collins Chester Thompson John Bonham Terry Bozzio Vinnie Coliauta Stewart Copeland Hal Blaine Nick Mason Jim Keltner Ginger Baker Keith Moon Dave Lombardo You sir are a man of exquisite taste. I don't really know who any of them are. I was just trying to seduce you. But I do enjoy Phil Collins' Greatest Hits album. I love his Disney work. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! "But Seriously....." Thanks dude. Drums make the music for me and those drummers above REALLY make the music mean something to me. |
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Post by DWF on Feb 3, 2015 11:29:03 GMT -5
Buddy RichAfter that it doesn't really matter. OK, there are and have been a ton of great drummers, but I haven't heard all of them - Carl Palmer, for example, hasn't really played in bands that I particularly like, so I'm not familiar with his work. But if LED says he's great, then I have zero doubt that he is. Some of my favorites... Tommy Aldridge Eric Singer (1986-2000) Vinnie Appice Dave Alford Nicko McBrain Clive Burr Simon Phillips Barriemore Barlow (Who I always liked from the first Yngwie album, but his work with Tull is really outstanding.) Jeff Martin Bobby Rondinelli Stewart Copeland (I'm not a big fan of the Police, but he's a great drummer.) Jason Bonham John Bonham Kenny Aronoff Ian Paice Brian Downey That's just off the top of my head, but that's a pretty good list. Bunch of great picks. Many are my favorites and influences as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 11:31:17 GMT -5
Kenny Aranoff missed my list by a cunt hair.
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Post by DWF on Feb 3, 2015 11:39:05 GMT -5
Todd Sucherman
Steve Smith
Cozy Powell
Jeff Porcaro
Jimmy DeGrasso
Neil Peart
Deen Castronovo
Pat Torpey
Troy Luccketta
Eric Singer
Nicko McBrain
Clive Burr
Simon Phillips
Bobby Rondinelli
Stewart Copeland
Roger Taylor
Jason Bonham
John Bonham
Ian Paice
Brian Downey
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 3, 2015 19:52:50 GMT -5
Fired from both Journey and Jefferson Starship for being a pedo. Cunt. I looked on Google and couldn't see anything about that. Plus he was the drummer on the Whitesnake 1987 album. I assume if he was a pedophile - no one would hire him. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 20:13:52 GMT -5
Fired from both Journey and Jefferson Starship for being a pedo. Cunt. I looked on Google and couldn't see anything about that. Plus he was the drummer on the Whitesnake 1987 album. I assume if he was a pedophile - no one would hire him. |
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 3, 2015 20:24:35 GMT -5
Seems to be more of an allegedly thing as opposed to confirmed from some of what I read in those links. Explains why he still had a career. |
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Post by Steve on Feb 4, 2015 2:05:33 GMT -5
Jeff Burrows anyone? Canucks, help me out here.
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 4, 2015 2:10:53 GMT -5
Jeff Burrows anyone? Canucks, help me out here. Um, hello: In no order: Denny Carmassi Jerry Shirley Ian Paice John Bonham Billy Cobham Simon Kirke Cozy Powell Terry Bozzio Tommy Aldridge Jan Hammer Jeff Porcaro Bobby Chouinard Keith Moon Lenny White Jim Fox Corky Laing Ansley Dunbar Jason Bonham Brian Tichy Mike Mangini Pat Torpey James Kottak Ken Mary Alex Van Halen Steve Gorman Brad Wilk Matt Cameron Jeff Burrows |
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Post by Steve on Feb 4, 2015 2:22:52 GMT -5
Apologies, HM. I didn't read your full list.
I've seen Burrows live twice now and he's perhaps the only drummer I've witnessed in concert who can reproduce the same drum sound on stage as in the studio.
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 4, 2015 2:29:41 GMT -5
Apologies, HM. I didn't read your full list. I've seen Burrows live twice now and he's perhaps the only drummer I've witnessed in concert who can reproduce the same drum sound on stage as in the studio. He is indeed great. When was the first time you saw Tea Party? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 2:39:19 GMT -5
I honestly have difficulty ranking musicians, oftentimes. So, I'll just list in no particular order, which is unusual for me to do.
Bill Ward
Ringo Starr
Joey Kramer
Peter Criss
Nick Mason
John Bonham
Keith Moon
Roger Taylor
Eric Singer
Mick Tucker
Cozy Powell
Neil Peart
Ian Paice
Alex Van Halen
Bill Bruford
Ginger Baker
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 4, 2015 2:42:52 GMT -5
I honestly have difficulty ranking musicians, oftentimes. So, I'll just list in no particular order, which is unusual for me to do.
Bill Ward
Ringo Starr
Joey Kramer
Peter Criss
Nick Mason
John Bonham
Keith Moon
Roger Taylor
Eric Singer
Mick Tucker
Cozy Powell
Neil Peart
Ian Paice
Alex Van Halen
Bill Bruford
Ginger Baker
Why do you have a difficulty ranking musicians? It's who you think is the best or most talented or just who you think kicks ass. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 2:49:36 GMT -5
I honestly have difficulty ranking musicians, oftentimes. So, I'll just list in no particular order, which is unusual for me to do.
Bill Ward
Ringo Starr
Joey Kramer
Peter Criss
Nick Mason
John Bonham
Keith Moon
Roger Taylor
Eric Singer
Mick Tucker
Cozy Powell
Neil Peart
Ian Paice
Alex Van Halen
Bill Bruford
Ginger Baker
Why do you have a difficulty ranking musicians? It's who you think is the best or most talented or just who you think kicks ass. I have no issue naming all the drummers I love or guitarists and so forth. I can list every one of them, easily. I just have a hard time determining which ones I like more or less and putting them in an order of preference. Some are apples and oranges so it's hard to compare and say "I like this guy better than this guy" because some of them are incomparable. All these drummers have a variation of proficiency combined with style/feel/power - just what degree and variations is the question so I have a hard time ranking them. I love them all relatively equally, for varying reasons. |
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 4, 2015 3:00:00 GMT -5
Why do you have a difficulty ranking musicians? It's who you think is the best or most talented or just who you think kicks ass. I have no issue naming all the drummers I love or guitarists and so forth. I can list every one of them, easily. I just have a hard time determining which ones I like more or less and putting them in an order of preference. Some are apples and oranges so it's hard to compare and say "I like this guy better than this guy" because some of them are incomparable. All these drummers have a variation of proficiency combined with style/feel/power - just what degree and variations is the question so I have a hard time ranking them. I love them all relatively equally, for varying reasons. I understand. In terms of KISS though, do you prefer Peter or Eric Singer? |
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Post by Steve on Feb 4, 2015 3:12:22 GMT -5
When was the first time you saw Tea Party? Not until the reunion tour three years ago, despite them being huge in Australia and touring here constantly when I was a student. I took a friend with me and converted her on the spot. Blasting Fire In The Head as I type this. Thank you, iTunes . |
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About the only rock drummer he had anything nice to say about. 
