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Post by Hey Man on Feb 28, 2015 18:21:22 GMT -5
Apparently Rocky Balboa has cancer - which of course he could still beat, but I think they are going for potential Oscar glory by making an emotional, powerful and dramatic film with Stallone hopefully giving the performance of his life.
Remember Creed isn't written or directed by Stallone, but Ryan Coogler - who directed Fruitvale Station, so this is probably going to be a very good movie even though it's a spin off.
So would you be fine with a scenario where Rocky actually dies or do you feel that Rocky dying can just not happen because Rocky is movie character icon or for any other reason?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 18:27:03 GMT -5
At this point, who cares
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 28, 2015 18:29:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 18:41:15 GMT -5
An ever dwindling group of people |
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 28, 2015 19:03:54 GMT -5
An ever dwindling group of people You make it sound like hundreds - Rocky still has many millions of fans worldwide, cable networks often have Rocky marathons because they do well for ratings and tourists go every year to Philly to run up the steps. |
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 28, 2015 19:07:45 GMT -5
I'm fine with it. Stallone CAN act, would work I'd say. About time to end the character. I'm optimistic. No Creed training montages to shitty rap please... I am fine with it too and Stallone has the ability to bring it with an emotional death scene that will make grown men cry like a baby. |
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 28, 2015 19:25:17 GMT -5
Exactly. It's like asking if you will be sad if Kiss retires.  The answer is that the last truly great Rocky film was 30+ years ago (Rocky 3). It's all been pretty pointless since. |
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 28, 2015 19:26:19 GMT -5
Exactly. It's like asking if you will be sad if Kiss retires. The answer is that the last truly great Rocky film was 30+ years ago (Rocky 3). It's all been pretty pointless since. Are you crazy - Rocky Balboa was fantastic. |
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 28, 2015 19:29:22 GMT -5
It was good, but not on the level of 1-3....and 4 and 5 were fucking awful. That's mostly underwhelming or worse since III.
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 28, 2015 19:33:36 GMT -5
It was good, but not on the level of 1-3....and 4 and 5 were fucking awful. That's mostly underwhelming or worse since III. Rocky III is entertaining, but not a great film. Rocky Balboa is up there with Rocky and Rocky II - it could actually be a bookend to those films. |
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 28, 2015 19:35:57 GMT -5
The vast majority of the past 30 years of Rocky has sucked....so it can't happen soon enough.
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 28, 2015 19:37:18 GMT -5
The vast majority of the past 30 years of Rocky has sucked....so it can't happen soon enough. This coming from the a guy that loved the prequels. You are not allowed to have an opinion based on that alone. |
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Post by Justlee on Feb 28, 2015 19:38:46 GMT -5
Been dead to me for years
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 28, 2015 19:40:56 GMT -5
The vast majority of the past 30 years of Rocky has sucked....so it can't happen soon enough. This coming from the a guy that loved the prequels. You are not allowed to have an opinion based on that alone. None of that changes the fact that this series sucks wind and is long in the tooth. Done. Die already. |
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 28, 2015 19:41:32 GMT -5
Been dead to me for years Yup |
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Post by R&ROVER on Feb 28, 2015 19:42:58 GMT -5
Good film is all. Poignant until that old cunt got in the ring again. Fucking enough. |
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Post by Hey Man on Feb 28, 2015 20:04:07 GMT -5
Rocky III is entertaining, but not a great film. Rocky Balboa is up there with Rocky and Rocky II - it could actually be a bookend to those films. Shit yeah. Rocky Balboa was wonderful and the only sequel that fit the tone of the first two. Yep. Rocky III and especially Rocky IV is where the franchise became more cartoon-like. This scene is wonderful: |
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Post by Cducharme on Feb 28, 2015 21:04:42 GMT -5
I can never say a series has run too long, I mean fuck I pine for a more traditional Friday the thirteenth sequel and that'd be film 13.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 21:29:44 GMT -5
Rocky had 2 great movies (1 and 2), two solid ones (3 and RB), 2 crap ones (4,5)
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Post by Justlee on Feb 28, 2015 21:42:00 GMT -5
Rocky had 2 great movies (1 and 2), two solid ones (3 and RB), 2 crap ones (4,5) Spot on. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 22:30:36 GMT -5
The film should end with Rocky going in for his next round of chemotherapy, with a monologue about cancer being something he'll be fighting for the rest of his life. There's no point killing him off on-screen - we know cancer kills. Leave his fate ambiguous.
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Post by R&ROVER on Mar 1, 2015 12:05:52 GMT -5
The film should end with Rocky going in for his next round of chemotherapy, with a monologue about cancer being something he'll be fighting for the rest of his life. There's no point killing him off on-screen - we know cancer kills. Leave his fate ambiguous. That would leave it open to more films down the line. Have him die and the only way he comes back is as zombie Rocky. Which would be awesome. Night Of The Living Balboa. I like it. |
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Post by R&ROVER on Mar 1, 2015 12:14:14 GMT -5
That is already superior to IV and V.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Mar 1, 2015 15:11:56 GMT -5
If he dies, he dies.
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Post by R&ROVER on Mar 1, 2015 15:58:13 GMT -5
Best use of this shit film maybe ever. |
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Post by B5Erik on Mar 2, 2015 0:50:19 GMT -5
I would rather not see Rocky die in the movie, primarily because it would seem like a forced thing. A stunt plot point - shock the people, get attention. I suppose if it was REALLY organic to the story and handled well then, yeah, that would be fine, but if it seems like the death of Kirk kind of thing (where they decided beforehand to kill him, but couldn't come up with a good way to do it) then it would only hurt the movie (just like Star Trek Generations where that scene really didn't pay off and detracted from the movie - unlike the death of Spock in Star Trek II).
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 2, 2015 0:52:33 GMT -5
By the way - spoiler alert...
Paulie is already dead and won't appear in Creed. Rocky has been truly alone. Not sure yet why his son isn't around.
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Post by R&ROVER on Mar 2, 2015 7:09:38 GMT -5
I would rather not see Rocky die in the movie, primarily because it would seem like a forced thing. A stunt plot point - shock the people, get attention. I suppose if it was REALLY organic to the story and handled well then, yeah, that would be fine, but if it seems like the death of Kirk kind of thing (where they decided beforehand to kill him, but couldn't come up with a good way to do it) then it would only hurt the movie (just like Star Trek Generations where that scene really didn't pay off and detracted from the movie - unlike the death of Spock in Star Trek II). Rocky is known for its forced deaths.  Creed dying was awful. Contrived. Felt very forced and stupid to me, like the rest of that movie. Mickey made sense and I still find that snot bubble and blubbering scene to be very moving. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 17:34:19 GMT -5
Go meet Adrian & Mickey, Rocco...
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Creed dying was awful. Contrived. Felt very forced and stupid to me, like the rest of that movie. Mickey made sense and I still find that snot bubble and blubbering scene to be very moving.