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Post by Psychosaint on Mar 6, 2017 19:51:16 GMT -5
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 6, 2017 21:09:04 GMT -5
I had a laugh when reading it. People are saying it will cover far less Americans than Obamacare and has it's own fair share of problems, so we shall see.
Good luck!
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Post by Psychosaint on Mar 7, 2017 0:53:35 GMT -5
I had a laugh when reading it. People are saying it will cover far less Americans than Obamacare and has it's own fair share of problems, so we shall see. Good luck! No more mandates. Woooo hoooo! |
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 7, 2017 2:10:21 GMT -5
I had a laugh when reading it. People are saying it will cover far less Americans than Obamacare and has it's own fair share of problems, so we shall see. Good luck! No more mandates. Woooo hoooo! Are they really repealing it when they allow insurance companies to jack rates on those who choose to not insure at some point and then apply for coverage afterwards? Sounds more like they are just transferring the "tax" directly to the insurance companies. Single payer would be real change - not this. |
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Post by Psychosaint on Mar 7, 2017 2:53:40 GMT -5
No more mandates. Woooo hoooo! Are they really repealing it when they allow insurance companies to jack rates on those who choose to not insure at some point and then apply for coverage afterwards? Sounds more like they are just transferring the "tax" directly to the insurance companies. Single payer would be real change - not this. Why is it that you hate me so much that you are now refusing to answer my pm's? |
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 7, 2017 3:09:14 GMT -5
Are they really repealing it when they allow insurance companies to jack rates on those who choose to not insure at some point and then apply for coverage afterwards? Sounds more like they are just transferring the "tax" directly to the insurance companies. Single payer would be real change - not this. Why is it that you hate me so much that you are now refusing to answer my pm's? Must be a glitch. |
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Post by Psychosaint on Mar 7, 2017 3:13:02 GMT -5
Why is it that you hate me so much that you are now refusing to answer my pm's? Must be a glitch. That's ok, next time you ever ask me a question, I won't answer. Meanie! |
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 7, 2017 3:28:37 GMT -5
This is Obamacare 2.0. They've replaced one set of subsidies with another, and the mandate has morphed into Diet Mandate with a side of entitlement.
So based upon your income, it seems the GOP plan will give you a refundable tax credit. What this means is that even if you pay $0 in taxes, the tax credit for having purchased insurance will still be "paid" to you by the government, which is why guys like Rand Paul are calling this a new entitlement program. The mandate sticks around in a different form, as there is a 30% penalty--payable to your insurance company, not the government--for not having continuous coverage. Some who have studied the bill say that we're probably looking at a decrease of insured by at least 15 million people.
This reads like a bunch of unprincipled idiots who have hung their hat on Obamacare being terrible (the worst thing since slavery, according to HUD Secretary, Ben Carson), but have never had a clear vision on what should replace it, then panicked when it turned out, predictably, that people tend to try to hold onto their subsidies when someone tries to take them away. There's not even a guess as to what this would cost, and it isn't 100% clear what this actually solves, nor how it decreases health care costs.
While Obamacare certainly had it's problems, this GOP Healthcare is a fail as a replacement.
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 7, 2017 23:48:49 GMT -5
Trump's plan is a total disaster.
Most major conservative groups are against this law. AARP dropped a huge bomb on it tonight. The Republicans in Congress aren't united on it, and John Boehner says he isn't surprised, because the GOP didn't agree on health care in his 25 years.
They had 8 years to come up with a plan and this is what they've got. Pathetic.
Trump will be done in 2020.
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Post by Psychosaint on Mar 8, 2017 15:25:27 GMT -5
Trump's plan is a total disaster. Most major conservative groups are against this law. AARP dropped a huge bomb on it tonight. The Republicans in Congress aren't united on it, and John Boehner says he isn't surprised, because the GOP didn't agree on health care in his 25 years. They had 8 years to come up with a plan and this is what they've got. Pathetic. Trump will be done in 2020. They better be careful, because if enough people lose their healthcare, he will be a one term President. |
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 8, 2017 20:15:08 GMT -5
Trump's plan is a total disaster. Most major conservative groups are against this law. AARP dropped a huge bomb on it tonight. The Republicans in Congress aren't united on it, and John Boehner says he isn't surprised, because the GOP didn't agree on health care in his 25 years. They had 8 years to come up with a plan and this is what they've got. Pathetic. Trump will be done in 2020. They better be careful, because if enough people lose their healthcare, he will be a one term President. He is already going to be a one term President. Enjoy 4 years of conservatism, because everything will be erased come 2020. I think Donny needs to realize that some things take a little more than a week and dinner napkin to figure out. This was a half baked idea before he even put it into the easy bake oven. Abort. |
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Post by Psychosaint on Mar 8, 2017 23:00:51 GMT -5
They better be careful, because if enough people lose their healthcare, he will be a one term President. He is already going to be a one term President. Enjoy 4 years of conservatism, because everything will be erased come 2020. I think Donny needs to realize that some things take a little more than a week and dinner napkin to figure out. This was a half baked idea before he even put it into the easy bake oven. Abort. No one can screw up healthcare as bad as the democrats. Obamacare was a disaster. Glad it will be gone. |
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 8, 2017 23:34:53 GMT -5
He is already going to be a one term President. Enjoy 4 years of conservatism, because everything will be erased come 2020. I think Donny needs to realize that some things take a little more than a week and dinner napkin to figure out. This was a half baked idea before he even put it into the easy bake oven. Abort. No one can screw up healthcare as bad as the democrats. Obamacare was a disaster. Glad it will be gone. Except they have - this is much worse than Obamacare, which is why it will never go through. Millions and millions of people currently insured - won't be under Trump's plan. I realize you want to defend your side, but this was a huge fuck up for Trump. His own party are calling it the worst plan ever. |
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Post by Psychosaint on Mar 9, 2017 0:25:07 GMT -5
No one can screw up healthcare as bad as the democrats. Obamacare was a disaster. Glad it will be gone. Except they have - this is much worse than Obamacare, which is why it will never go through. Millions and millions of people currently insured - won't be under Trump's plan. I realize you want to defend your side, but this was a huge fuck up for Trump. His own party are calling it the worst plan ever. Im quite sure that is what your liberal sources are telling you. The same sources that praised Obamacare. |
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Post by Hey Man on Mar 9, 2017 0:44:35 GMT -5
Except they have - this is much worse than Obamacare, which is why it will never go through. Millions and millions of people currently insured - won't be under Trump's plan. I realize you want to defend your side, but this was a huge fuck up for Trump. His own party are calling it the worst plan ever. Im quite sure that is what your liberal sources are telling you. The same sources that praised Obamacare. No, it's the medical community and Republicans that are calling this a piece of shit. Has nothing to do with liberal sources. |
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Post by Psychosaint on Mar 9, 2017 5:37:55 GMT -5
Im quite sure that is what your liberal sources are telling you. The same sources that praised Obamacare. No, it's the medical community and Republicans that are calling this a piece of shit. Has nothing to do with liberal sources. At the end of the day, they will back the bill opposed to keeping obamacare. |
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