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Post by Steve on Nov 15, 2023 23:41:36 GMT -5
Did Capitol or Vee Jay release any of these in stereo? The one fan made set I can find is in mono, which may be authentic but the sound isn’t all it could be.
Did they use the same mixes for US and UK singles? If not, what alternate mixes should I look for?
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Post by Margo Leadbetter on Nov 16, 2023 22:50:37 GMT -5
I find the fact that you asked that question here hilarious.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 16, 2023 22:57:23 GMT -5
I find the fact that you asked that question here hilarious. Why? As small of a forum this place is - we are smarter than most, especially considering your view of people on the FAQ. Not to mention you already posted about the new Red/Blue albums, so it is reasonable that he might get a response on this from you or any other Beatles fan here. He probably did ask elsewhere and didn't get an answer. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 16, 2023 23:30:05 GMT -5
I find the fact that you asked that question here hilarious. I am hopeful for some answers, or at least leads, if the latest regeneration of this place ever outgrows its ‘bitchy office gossip about everyone on the FAQ’ phase. 😉 FYI, I have been a hardcore Beatles fan since the red and blue albums first appeared on CD thirty years ago. A deep dive into the catalogue followed, and that got me through my degree in one piece. I am now an English As A Second Language tutor with new migrants, and I taught them opposites by getting them to sing Hello Goodbye. That was a fun lesson. |
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Post by Margo Leadbetter on Nov 16, 2023 23:47:42 GMT -5
Bro there are six people who use this board and they’re all dumbfucks.
Ask on the Hoffman forum and you’ll get an answer.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 17, 2023 0:41:16 GMT -5
Bro there are six people who use this board and they’re all dumbfucks. Ask on the Hoffman forum and you’ll get an answer. So that would include you then? |
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 17, 2023 1:03:55 GMT -5
I find the fact that you asked that question here hilarious. I am hopeful for some answers, or at least leads, if the latest regeneration of this place ever outgrows its ‘bitchy office gossip about everyone on the FAQ’ phase. 😉 FYI, I have been a hardcore Beatles fan since the red and blue albums first appeared on CD thirty years ago. A deep dive into the catalogue followed, and that got me through my degree in one piece. I am now an English As A Second Language tutor with new migrants, and I taught them opposites by getting them to sing Hello Goodbye. That was a fun lesson. Has Nomads outgrown it yet? I would be willing to bet money on that being a no. But I tried helping you with Uriah Heep given that I know all about them and you bailed the thread.  |
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Post by Steve on Nov 17, 2023 1:15:05 GMT -5
I downloaded the UH albums you recommended but haven’t listened to them yet. I’m hooked up to an IV again and only have my phone on me.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 17, 2023 1:24:50 GMT -5
I downloaded the UH albums you recommended but haven’t listened to them yet. I’m hooked up to an IV again and only have my phone on me. No worries. I was just looking forward to your feedback and hoped that you dug my suggestions. I hope you are OK my friend. |
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Post by *ech* on Nov 22, 2023 11:14:13 GMT -5
None of the Beatles singles were released in stereo in the U.S. until Get Back in 1969.
There were some Japan-only EPs and some EU and US compilations that used some stereo mixes. Notably "Beatles Greatest" which is a 1965 German compilation has a couple of setter tracks including From Me To You and I think She Liebt Dish, the German version of She Loves You (not sure about this one)
All of the original masters from their early singles were purposely destroyed, so no remixes were possible.
If you really want the exact details with dates and everything, I can try and pull out a book I have somewhere which delves into the subject. It's a bit anal, but I understand what it's like being a nerd!
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 22, 2023 12:24:44 GMT -5
None of the Beatles singles were released in stereo in the U.S. until Get Back in 1969. There were some Japan-only EPs and some EU and US compilations that used some stereo mixes. Notably "Beatles Greatest" which is a 1965 German compilation has a couple of setter tracks including From Me To You and I think She Liebt Dish, the German version of She Loves You (not sure about this one) All of the original masters from their early singles were purposely destroyed, so no remixes were possible. If you really want the exact details with dates and everything, I can try and pull out a book I have somewhere which delves into the subject. It's a bit anal, but I understand what it's like being a nerd! Thanks for this response for Steve. Interesting. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 22, 2023 16:29:16 GMT -5
Good to see some traffic on this thread. Thanks to our new friend for the detailed reply. One of these days I must dive into the US albums and listen carefully for different takes or alternate mixes. There’s bound to be a few. The Beatles Box (an eight disc or cassette set from World Records in 1980- released in many countries through Readers Digest) has a handful of unique stereo mixes. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles_Box |
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Post by *ech* on Nov 22, 2023 16:54:09 GMT -5
From what I can tell (and there are likely a lot of variants) this is where we stand in terms of "original" stereo mixes:
Love Me Do:
* Master tapes destroyed; no stereo mixes.
PS I Love You:
* Master tapes destroyed; no stereo mixes.
Please, Please Me:
* 1st stereo on Please, Please Me LP (1963)
Ask Me Why:
* 1st stereo on Please, Please Me LP (1963)
From Me to You:
* 1st stereo on German "Beatles Greatest" LP (1965)
* Capitol/USA used mix in 1973
Thank You Girl:
* 1st stereo on American "Beatles Second Album" LP (1964)
* Mono and stereo mixes made on March 13th, 1964
She Loves You:
* No true stereo; master tape lost or destroyed
I'll Get You:
* No true stereo; isolated harmonica possible
I Want to Hold Your Hand:
* 1st stereo on German "Beatles Greatest" LP (1965)
* Standard mix in 1966; 1963 stereo mix released in 1977 in Australia
This Boy:
* 1st stereo on Canadian reissue single "All My Loving"/"This Boy" (1976)
* Both songs mixed on October 21st, 1963; stereo mix of "I Want to Hold Your Hand" released in 1977 in Australia
Can't Buy Me Love:
* 1st stereo on Hard Day's Night LP
You Can't Do That:
* 1st stereo on Hard Day's Night LP
A Hard Day's Night:
* 1st stereo on Hard Day's Night LP
Things We Said Today:
* 1st stereo on Hard Day's Night LP
I Feel Fine:
* 1st stereo on Collection of Beatles Oldies LP (1966)
She's a Woman:
* 1st stereo on Australian LP, "Greatest Hits Vol. 2" (1966)
Ticket to Ride:
* 1st stereo on Help! LP (1965)
Yes it Is:
* 1st stereo on "Only the Beatles" cassette (1986)
* B-side mixed in 1965, released 20 years later due to sound issues
Help!:
* 1st stereo on Help! LP (1965)
I'm Down:
* 1st stereo on Japanese "Help!" EP (1965)
We Can Work it Out:
* 1st stereo on American "Yesterday...And Today" LP (1966)
Day Tripper:
* 1st stereo on American "Yesterday...And Today" LP (1966)
* 1966 mix standard; 2009 remaster is a tweaked version
Paperback Writer:
* 1st stereo on Collection of Beatles Oldies LP (1966)
Rain:
* 1st stereo on Hey Jude album (1970)
* Not mixed for stereo until 1969
Yellow Submarine:
* 1st stereo on Revolver LP
Eleanor Rigby:
* 1st stereo on Revolver LP
Strawberry Fields Forever:
* 1st stereo on American Magical Mystery Tour LP (1967)
* New mix on German MMT album (1972); became standard
Penny Lane:
* 1st stereo on Australian Essential Beatles LP (late 1971)
* Not mixed for stereo until 1971; no Capitol-USA request until then
All You Need is Love:
* 1st stereo on Yellow Submarine LP (1968)
Baby, You're a Rich Man:
* 1st stereo on German Magical Mystery Tour LP (1972)
Hello Goodbye:
* 1st stereo on American Magical Mystery Tour LP
I am the Walrus:
* 1st stereo on Magical Mystery Tour EP
Lady Madonna:
* 1st stereo on Apple's Hey Jude LP (1970)
The Inner Light:
* 1st stereo on British EP, The Beatles, part of EP boxed set (1981)
Hey Jude:
* 1st stereo on Apple's Hey Jude LP (1970)
Revolution:
* 1st stereo on Apple's Hey Jude LP (1970)
Get Back:
* 1st stereo on American single (1969)
Don't Let Me Down:
* 1st stereo on American single (1969)
Of course that all changed when they did those horrible stereo masters for CD. The recent stereo box set is actually pretty good, purists be damned. I haven't actually listened to the newly mastered Blue and Red, but I've heard good things.
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Post by Steve on Nov 22, 2023 19:07:55 GMT -5
By ‘horrible stereo masters’ do you mean the 1987 CDs? And is the stereo box the 2009 one?
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