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Post by Hey Man on Oct 4, 2011 15:42:13 GMT -5
If two students out of 40 want to stand up and say the Lords Prayer - that's fine. It's the forcing of the other 38 kids that I have a problem with. They aren't forced anymore. And I don't think they should be. Well it shouldn't have ever been an issue of forcing. Religion should be a stay at home or chuch activity. It has no place in society. |
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Post by Hey Man on Oct 4, 2011 15:43:56 GMT -5
If two students out of 40 want to stand up and say the Lords Prayer - that's fine. It's the forcing of the other 38 kids that I have a problem with. They aren't forced anymore. And I don't think they should be. Do you think it's o.k. for a student to read a bible at school on his/her own time?? Yes, but the key word is "own time". |
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Post by Justlee on Oct 4, 2011 15:47:43 GMT -5
They aren't forced anymore. And I don't think they should be. Well it shouldn't have ever been an issue of forcing. Religion should be a stay at home or chuch activity. It has no place in society. Well the country was founded with strong roots in christianity.....I guess some felt the need to have it involved with our youth. I don't know. I do know, that it is always going to be an issue. I don't think you will see what you want to see and that is religion outlawed in our lifetime. It might happen one day who knows. |
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Post by Hey Man on Oct 4, 2011 15:51:30 GMT -5
Well it shouldn't have ever been an issue of forcing. Religion should be a stay at home or chuch activity. It has no place in society. Well the country was founded with strong roots in christianity.....I guess some felt the need to have it involved with our youth. I don't know. I do know, that it is always going to be an issue. I don't think you will see what you want to see and that is religion outlawed in our lifetime. It might happen one day who knows. The Christian strong roots thing is a complete fallacy. Our founding fathers actually believed in science and knowledge. Many did not believe in God. |
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Post by RisingFarce on Oct 4, 2011 15:53:19 GMT -5
Well the country was founded with strong roots in christianity.....I guess some felt the need to have it involved with our youth. I don't know. I do know, that it is always going to be an issue. I don't think you will see what you want to see and that is religion outlawed in our lifetime. It might happen one day who knows. Are you in favor of other religions being freely expressed in all walks of life too? Should Muslim students be allowed to take prayers before class? Should Hindu prayers be part of daily school life in the USA? Is this a Christian only deal? |
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Post by Hey Man on Oct 4, 2011 15:53:49 GMT -5
Yep - so when Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin among others bring up what the Founding Fathers would have wanted, they are talking out of their ass. The Founding Fathers would have fucking hated them, most Republicans and the Tea Party if they were alive today.
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Post by RisingFarce on Oct 4, 2011 15:55:28 GMT -5
Yep - so when Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin among others bring up what the Founding Fathers would have wanted, they are talking out of their ass. The Founding Fathers would have fucking hated them, most Republicans and the Tea Party if they were alive today. Word. Great point. |
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Post by RisingFarce on Oct 4, 2011 15:57:50 GMT -5
Well I'm out. I'm going to let you guys agree with each other over and over. I'm outnumbered...........  Bring someone who can debate next time. I joke - you are a good sort underneath the comedy politics.  Edit: where did his post go?  |
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Post by Hey Man on Oct 4, 2011 15:59:24 GMT -5
I wonder what Phantom's opinion on this would be.
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Post by Justlee on Oct 4, 2011 16:02:07 GMT -5
Well, just for the record, I agree with separation of church and state....I just think you guys on the left are making way more out of it than it needs to be....just my opinion.
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Post by RisingFarce on Oct 4, 2011 16:02:22 GMT -5
I wonder what Phantom's opinion on this would be. He wouldn't have one. He'd just stand on the sidelines and boo from a distance. |
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Post by Hey Man on Oct 4, 2011 16:04:29 GMT -5
Well, just for the record, I agree with separation of church and state....I just think you guys on the left are making way more out of it than it needs to be....just my opinion. But when you say separation of church and state - what do you mean by that? What would be your definition of that? |
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Post by Justlee on Oct 4, 2011 16:04:34 GMT -5
Well I'm out. I'm going to let you guys agree with each other over and over. I'm outnumbered........... Bring someone who can debate next time. I joke - you are a good sort underneath the comedy politics. Edit: where did his post go? Well what would the politics section be if I did leave. Many +1's, and agreed and wouldn't that be fun. All the liberals in a message board circle jerk.... |
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Post by Hey Man on Oct 4, 2011 16:06:34 GMT -5
Bring someone who can debate next time. I joke - you are a good sort underneath the comedy politics. Edit: where did his post go? Well what would the politics section be if I did leave. Many +1's, and agreed and wouldn't that be fun. All the liberals in a message board circle jerk.... Well it is hard to debate logic. We agree, because disagreeing would make one stupid.  |
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Post by Justlee on Oct 4, 2011 16:09:32 GMT -5
Well what would the politics section be if I did leave. Many +1's, and agreed and wouldn't that be fun. All the liberals in a message board circle jerk.... Well it is hard to debate logic. We agree, because disagreeing would make one stupid. So you are calling me stupid because I don't agree with you???.... |
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Post by Hey Man on Oct 4, 2011 16:12:39 GMT -5
Well it is hard to debate logic. We agree, because disagreeing would make one stupid. So you are calling me stupid because I don't agree with you???.... It's not about agreeing with me - it's about agreeing with logic. |
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Post by Justlee on Oct 4, 2011 16:14:19 GMT -5
So you are calling me stupid because I don't agree with you???.... It's not about agreeing with me - it's about agreeing with logic. ;D Forgot, your logic is the correct one. Gotcha!! |
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Post by RisingFarce on Oct 4, 2011 16:15:18 GMT -5
Bring someone who can debate next time. I joke - you are a good sort underneath the comedy politics. Edit: where did his post go? Well what would the politics section be if I did leave. Many +1's, and agreed and wouldn't that be fun. All the liberals in a message board circle jerk.... Liberals? Are you one of those righties who think that if you don't salute the GOP, you're automatically a "liberal"? How black and white! |
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Post by Justlee on Oct 4, 2011 16:17:21 GMT -5
Well what would the politics section be if I did leave. Many +1's, and agreed and wouldn't that be fun. All the liberals in a message board circle jerk.... Liberals? Are you one of those righties who think that if you don't salute the GOP, you're automatically a "liberal"? How black and white! Are you Fartbone?? Because you post just as idiotic as he does. Most of the other posters have admitted to being liberal. Hey Man, are you liberal?? |
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Post by RisingFarce on Oct 4, 2011 16:21:12 GMT -5
Liberals? Are you one of those righties who think that if you don't salute the GOP, you're automatically a "liberal"? How black and white! Are you Fartbone?? Because you post just as idiotic as he does. Most of the other posters have admitted to being liberal. Hey Man, are you liberal?? Idiotic? Now you're getting personal. Just because I believe that the GOP are spectacularly full of shit doesn't make me a liberal, my friend. I know that you righties like things in neat little boxes, but not everybody fits into them y'know? |
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Post by Hey Man on Oct 4, 2011 16:21:29 GMT -5
Lee,
Seriously, why are you a Republican? Forget Obama or any other such crap - what are the overall reasons you support the right and conservative thinking overall? And please make it more than just a financial thing.
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Post by Justlee on Oct 4, 2011 16:24:37 GMT -5
Are you Fartbone?? Because you post just as idiotic as he does. Most of the other posters have admitted to being liberal. Hey Man, are you liberal?? Idiotic? Now you're getting personal. Just because I believe that the GOP are spectacularly full of shit doesn't make me a liberal, my friend. I know that you righties like things in neat little boxes, but not everybody fits into them y'know? What's wrong with being a liberal Fartbone? I mean if it's what you believe in you know. |
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Post by RisingFarce on Oct 4, 2011 16:25:46 GMT -5
Idiotic? Now you're getting personal. Just because I believe that the GOP are spectacularly full of shit doesn't make me a liberal, my friend. I know that you righties like things in neat little boxes, but not everybody fits into them y'know? What's wrong with being a liberal Fartbone? I mean if it's what you believe in you know. You are wrong on both counts, my friend. And simmer down a little. |
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Post by Justlee on Oct 4, 2011 16:29:48 GMT -5
Lee, Seriously, why are you a Republican? Forget Obama or any other such crap - what are the overall reasons you support the right and conservative thinking overall? And please make it more than just a financial thing. Well I am not a "right wing" republican. I guarantee you that I lean way less to the right than you do to the left. I did vote for Bill Clinton back in the day. I bet you have never voted Republican. For example..... I believe in a woman's right to choose I believe in same sex marriage I don't believe in God I think the bible is a fictional book But..... I also believe in Reagan's trickle down economics....it works I believe you have to give rich people tax breaks for two reasons....1. they own all the companies that create jobs 2.They already pay most of the income tax in this country. I am against socialism I still believe in America and wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I believe in the death penalty I could go on, but why?? |
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Post by RisingFarce on Oct 4, 2011 16:33:16 GMT -5
How could anybody NOT believe in America? It's a fucking great big land mass. If people think America is fictional, then I hold out no hope, TBH.
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Post by Justlee on Oct 4, 2011 16:36:07 GMT -5
How could anybody NOT believe in America? It's a fucking great big land mass. If people think America is fictional, then I hold out no hope, TBH. You always bring a "different" perspective to the conversation. Now put down the pipe....... |
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Post by RisingFarce on Oct 4, 2011 16:38:30 GMT -5
How could anybody NOT believe in America? It's a fucking great big land mass. If people think America is fictional, then I hold out no hope, TBH. You always bring a "different" perspective to the conversation. Now put down the pipe....... Us Commie Zen Sikh Pagan Anarchists do that stuff, y'know. |
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Post by Justlee on Oct 4, 2011 16:39:24 GMT -5
You always bring a "different" perspective to the conversation. Now put down the pipe....... Us Commie Zen Sikh Pagan Anarchists do that stuff, y'know. ;D |
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Post by Hey Man on Oct 4, 2011 16:40:28 GMT -5
Lee, Seriously, why are you a Republican? Forget Obama or any other such crap - what are the overall reasons you support the right and conservative thinking overall? And please make it more than just a financial thing. Well I am not a "right wing" republican. I guarantee you that I lean way less to the right than you do to the left. For example..... I believe in a woman's right to choose I believe in same sex marriage I don't believe in God I think the bible is a fictional book But..... I also believe in Reagan's trickle down economics....it works I believe you have to give rich people tax breaks for two reasons....1. they own all the companies that create jobs 2.They already pay most of the income tax in this country. I am against socialism I still believe in America and wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I believe in the death penalty I could go on, but why?? Giving rich people tax breaks doesn't create jobs or inspire them to help the less fortunate 99% of people - we have learned that one the hard way. Even some financial legends smarter than you or I on the matter like Warren Buffett are saying that the rich should absolutely be taxed more. Do you realize how easy it would be to pay for Obamacare or some sort of universal healthcare, if we taxed the rich more, made pot legal and taxed it and many other very simple changes that would bring in an endless supply of money streams, so that everyone can have healthcare without having to go bankrupt to get it. It's blows my mind that people on the right don't find ways to pay for healthcare - because they are countless ways to do it, instead of just complaining about it. Many billions of dollars are wasted on bullshit every year. Maybe some of that money that no one cares about could be better used. |
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Post by Justlee on Oct 4, 2011 16:49:49 GMT -5
Well I am not a "right wing" republican. I guarantee you that I lean way less to the right than you do to the left. For example..... I believe in a woman's right to choose I believe in same sex marriage I don't believe in God I think the bible is a fictional book But..... I also believe in Reagan's trickle down economics....it works I believe you have to give rich people tax breaks for two reasons....1. they own all the companies that create jobs 2.They already pay most of the income tax in this country. I am against socialism I still believe in America and wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I believe in the death penalty I could go on, but why?? Giving rich people tax breaks doesn't create jobs or inspire them to help the less fortunate 99% of people - we have learned that one the hard way. Even some financial legends smarter than you or I on the matter like Warren Buffett are saying that the rich should absolutely be taxed more. Do you realize how easy it would be to pay for Obamacare or some sort of universal healthcare, if we taxed the rich more, made pot legal and taxed it and many other very simple changes that would bring in an endless supply of money streams, so that everyone can have healthcare without having to go bankrupt to get it. It's blows my mind that people on the right don't find ways to pay for healthcare - because they are countless ways to do it, instead of just complaining about it. Many billions of dollars are wasted on bullshit every year. Maybe some of that money that no one cares about could be better used. Well I agree about legalizing pot and creating tax revenues. I also agree about wasting money on bullshit every year....every day even. It blows my mind how you guys think we can afford healthcare at this point. As far as Warren Buffet goes, he's a lefty...what's he going to say? And maybe if some of your administration would pay their own taxes it wouldn't look quite so bad asking for an increase. And if we didn't waste so much money and could cut spending, maybe we could look into healthcare at that point. But I disagree about you taxing the rich part. We have to let the private sector create jobs and get us out of this mess. Government is not the way to do it. Too many regulations on businesses and industries, hence the reason we have lost so many jobs to other countries. Also we could drill for oil off of our shores and in Alaska. That would create a ton of jobs, let alone help us get off of foreign oil. Why does the left oppose drilling so bad?? We need jobs. |
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