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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 22:21:44 GMT -5
Thanks Dute! Remember that time I came on to you when I was drunk? I think next time Hey Man needs ammo against me, you can use that. Just kidding, in all seriousness, you guys have a neat thing going on here. Dute, good to be here. And Hey Man, well, I know you wanted me to be here so you could devour me, so let's have it. Yes. A tad awkward to say the least. Yes it was. Glad to say that we've never returned there.
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 23, 2012 22:30:43 GMT -5
How would you like your ass-whipping, then? Black, white, shades of gray, or technicolor? It's irrelevant, because you can't possibly give me an ass-whipping, but I am welcoming you to try. So stop stalling and start delivering.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 22:45:14 GMT -5
I can't possibly give you an ass-whipping? When that big ass thing is right in my face?
Tomorrow, I will post a thread about "us" here on your turf. And then you can rally your troops.
I don't hate you. I don't like you. We are perfect, wouldn't you say?
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Post by lugnut on Jan 23, 2012 22:45:24 GMT -5
2. A bitch ass piece of gay dildo rubberness shitfall. I think Gay Dildo Rubberness Shitfall is the name of my new hypothetical punk band.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 22:50:01 GMT -5
2. A bitch ass piece of gay dildo rubberness shitfall. I think Gay Dildo Rubberness Shitfall is the name of my new hypothetical punk band. All day long. Make the check out to me.
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 23, 2012 22:52:41 GMT -5
I can't possibly give you an ass-whipping? When that big ass thing is right in my face? Tomorrow, I will post a thread about "us" here on your turf. And then you can rally your troops. I don't hate you. I don't like you. We are perfect, wouldn't you say? I don't need to rally anyone - this may be shocking to you, but people here don't have a problem with me and some even actually like me if you can believe it. Even Austin said he was wrong about me and was happy to be here. Maybe you will realize that you were wrong about me too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 23:09:13 GMT -5
The only, and I mean ONLY contention I have with you is your disdain, or rather, nearsightedness about Paul Stanley.
He is the starchild. Right? I mean, that was what the original Kiss was all about. Paul was the starchild. He was an essential and extremely important function of that original magic. You needed his absolute disregard for everything rational-type of attitude for a thing like Kiss to work, especially in rock and roll. Without Paul, Kiss would be as laughable as Man-O-War (whom I love, but that's something different and gay altogether, shut up). Paul gave Kiss a sense of humor and uniqueness with his sharp and witty disdain. You may put down Paul, and his style and songs and way of producing and being as a person, but aren't you sort of being a starchild in your own obvious and non-ironic narcissistic way? What with your message board terrorist-type actions, returning as a different user (in spy type fashion....quite sexy, actually....lol) each time after getting burned over on the FAQ, even once as a woman, to get your point across about how HORRIBLE Kiss is now, and how horrible current Kiss fans are, and how horrible Julian at the Kiss Faq website is (someone you don't even know in real life, much like, well, everyone else here! LOL), all the way to finally finding yourself. Which is good. Everyone should know who there are. Me? I am starchildblade. Someone else at the FAQ that Hey Man took issue with because they took issue with him. But I am so much more. And I am nothing.
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 23, 2012 23:18:15 GMT -5
The only, and I mean ONLY contention I have with you is your disdain, or rather, nearsightedness about Paul Stanley. He is the starchild. Right? I mean, that was what the original Kiss was all about. Paul was the starchild. He was an essential and extremely important function of that original magic. You needed his absolute disregard for everything rational-type of attitude for a thing like Kiss to work, especially in rock and roll. Without Paul, Kiss would be as laughable as Man-O-War (whom I love, but that's something different and gay altogether, shut up). Paul gave Kiss a sense of humor and uniqueness with his sharp and witty disdain. You may put down Paul, and his style and songs and way of producing and being as a person, but aren't you sort of being a starchild in your own obvious and non-ironic narcissistic way? What with your message board terrorist-type actions, returning as a different user (in spy type fashion....quite sexy, actually....lol) each time after getting burned over on the FAQ, even once as a woman, to get your point across about how HORRIBLE Kiss is now, and how horrible current Kiss fans are, and how horrible Julian at the Kiss Faq website is (someone you don't even know in real life, much like, well, everyone else here! LOL), all the way to finally finding yourself. Which is good. Everyone should know who there are. Me? I am starchildblade. Someone else at the FAQ that Hey Man took issue with because they took issue with him. But I am so much more. And I am nothing. What the fuck are you talking about? Getting burned over at the FAQ? Are you kidding me? Maybe you should read this forum for a bit and see what people are saying about me before you actually say stupid shit like me getting burned at the FAQ. I don't think you understand a fucking thing about me and what happened at the FAQ. I am sorry you are all offended about my opinon of Paul Stanley, but that is how I feel about him. He had his moment in the sun and yes he was essentially to KISS in the beginning, but for most of the 80's, 90's and now - he is fucking horrible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 23:24:40 GMT -5
The only, and I mean ONLY contention I have with you is your disdain, or rather, nearsightedness about Paul Stanley. He is the starchild. Right? I mean, that was what the original Kiss was all about. Paul was the starchild. He was an essential and extremely important function of that original magic. You needed his absolute disregard for everything rational-type of attitude for a thing like Kiss to work, especially in rock and roll. Without Paul, Kiss would be as laughable as Man-O-War (whom I love, but that's something different and gay altogether, shut up). Paul gave Kiss a sense of humor and uniqueness with his sharp and witty disdain. You may put down Paul, and his style and songs and way of producing and being as a person, but aren't you sort of being a starchild in your own obvious and non-ironic narcissistic way? What with your message board terrorist-type actions, returning as a different user (in spy type fashion....quite sexy, actually....lol) each time after getting burned over on the FAQ, even once as a woman, to get your point across about how HORRIBLE Kiss is now, and how horrible current Kiss fans are, and how horrible Julian at the Kiss Faq website is (someone you don't even know in real life, much like, well, everyone else here! LOL), all the way to finally finding yourself. Which is good. Everyone should know who there are. Me? I am starchildblade. Someone else at the FAQ that Hey Man took issue with because they took issue with him. But I am so much more. And I am nothing. What the fuck are you talking about? Getting burned over at the FAQ? Are you kidding me? Maybe you should read this forum for a bit and see what people are saying about me before you actually say stupid shit like me getting burned at the FAQ. I don't think you understand a fucking thing about me and what happened at the FAQ. I am sorry you are all offended about my opinon of Paul Stanley, but that is how I feel about him. He had his moment in the sun and yes he was essentially to KISS in the beginning, but for most of the 80's, 90's and now - he is fucking horrible. Getting BANNED. Sorry. Typo. BANNED. Paul was "essentially" to Kiss? Essentially what? You don't have a clue about Kiss if you think "Paul had his day". Paul Stanley IS Kiss.. So, yeah, go ahead and silence me, you mother fucking douche bag. I love Paul Stanley and will stand up for his name in Kiss any fucking day! Ban this!
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 23, 2012 23:28:57 GMT -5
What the fuck are you talking about? Getting burned over at the FAQ? Are you kidding me? Maybe you should read this forum for a bit and see what people are saying about me before you actually say stupid shit like me getting burned at the FAQ. I don't think you understand a fucking thing about me and what happened at the FAQ. I am sorry you are all offended about my opinon of Paul Stanley, but that is how I feel about him. He had his moment in the sun and yes he was essentially to KISS in the beginning, but for most of the 80's, 90's and now - he is fucking horrible. Getting BANNED. Sorry. Typo. BANNED. Paul was "essentially" to Kiss? Essentially what? You don't have a clue about Kiss if you think "Paul had his day". Paul Stanley IS Kiss.. So, yeah, go ahead and silence me, you mother fucking douche bag. I love Paul Stanley and will stand up for his name in Kiss any fucking day! Ban this! Sorry meant to say essential to KISS. Why would I silence you? Opinion are allowed here. Like I said, spend some time reading here before saying dumb shit. People disagree here all the time and that's perfectly fine. Gene Simmons is KISS by the way and has provided much more to the band overall than Paul has.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 23:33:32 GMT -5
Getting BANNED. Sorry. Typo. BANNED. Paul was "essentially" to Kiss? Essentially what? You don't have a clue about Kiss if you think "Paul had his day". Paul Stanley IS Kiss.. So, yeah, go ahead and silence me, you mother fucking douche bag. I love Paul Stanley and will stand up for his name in Kiss any fucking day! Ban this! Sorry meant to say essential to KISS. Why would I silence you? Opinion are allowed here. Like I said, spend some time reading here before saying dumb shit. People disagree here all the time and that's perfectly fine. Gene Simmons is KISS by the way and has provided much more to the band overall than Paul has. Spend time reading here before you say dumb shit....oh ... the... irony.... Gene has done very well for Kiss' name, and overall enjoyment, I agree. Go ahead and delete or belittle Paul. Take that Kiss. A non Paul Kiss. Wow. Talk about a suck ass band, mostly. Even Gene wouldn't want a non-Paul Kiss. Gene would commit suicide before that ever happened. Why do you hate Paul so much? His voice? I mean really? you can be real here. What do you not like about Paul?
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 23, 2012 23:40:00 GMT -5
Sorry meant to say essential to KISS. Why would I silence you? Opinion are allowed here. Like I said, spend some time reading here before saying dumb shit. People disagree here all the time and that's perfectly fine. Gene Simmons is KISS by the way and has provided much more to the band overall than Paul has. Spend time reading here before you say dumb shit....oh ... the... irony.... Gene has done very well for Kiss' name, and overall enjoyment, I agree. Go ahead and delete or belittle Paul. Take that Kiss. A non Paul Kiss. Wow. Talk about a suck ass band, mostly. Even Gene wouldn't want a non-Paul Kiss. Gene would commit suicide before that ever happened. Why do you hate Paul so much? His voice? I mean really? you can be real here. What do you not like about Paul? What irony - people like what I have to say even if they disagree with it. I never said I wanted a non-Paul KISS, although I would have preferred a lot of the later albums if it was just Gene stuff. I am not crazy about Paul's voice, I think he is unable to be critical of himself and thus we get a lot of crappy Paul songs on albums - because he thinks everything he writes is so amazing, I don't like the direction that Paul took KISS in numerous times and he is a not a producer. Sonic Boom sucks ass in my opinion. There you go.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Jan 23, 2012 23:42:32 GMT -5
Ladies please...you're all just...horrible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 23:45:05 GMT -5
Ladies please...you're all just...horrible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 23:49:22 GMT -5
Spend time reading here before you say dumb shit....oh ... the... irony.... Gene has done very well for Kiss' name, and overall enjoyment, I agree. Go ahead and delete or belittle Paul. Take that Kiss. A non Paul Kiss. Wow. Talk about a suck ass band, mostly. Even Gene wouldn't want a non-Paul Kiss. Gene would commit suicide before that ever happened. Why do you hate Paul so much? His voice? I mean really? you can be real here. What do you not like about Paul? What irony - people like what I have to say even if they disagree with it. I never said I wanted a non-Paul KISS, although I would have preferred a lot of the later albums if it was just Gene stuff. I am not crazy about Paul's voice, I think he is unable to be critical of himself and thus we get a lot of crappy Paul songs on albums - because he thinks everything he writes is so amazing, I don't like the direction that Paul took KISS in numerous times and he is a not a producer. Sonic Boom sucks ass in my opinion. There you go. Well, that's all I've ever contended. I am a Paul fan. Love his voice. Pretty much love most of what he's done, and not in a sheep type way that you would love to box me in, but I guess I just love Paul being Paul, whatever that is going to be, or what has been before. I get that you don't so much care for Paul. THAT IS OUR TRUE BATTLE. I always assume that everyone sees Kiss in the true sense, the way I always see them, as being equal parts Gene and Paul, and not without the Ace/Peter elixir factoring in to complete the whole.
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 23, 2012 23:58:12 GMT -5
What irony - people like what I have to say even if they disagree with it. I never said I wanted a non-Paul KISS, although I would have preferred a lot of the later albums if it was just Gene stuff. I am not crazy about Paul's voice, I think he is unable to be critical of himself and thus we get a lot of crappy Paul songs on albums - because he thinks everything he writes is so amazing, I don't like the direction that Paul took KISS in numerous times and he is a not a producer. Sonic Boom sucks ass in my opinion. There you go. Well, that's all I've ever contended. I am a Paul fan. Love his voice. Pretty much love most of what he's done, and not in a sheep type way that you would love to box me in, but I guess I just love Paul being Paul, whatever that is going to be, or what has been before. I get that you don't so much care for Paul. THAT IS OUR TRUE BATTLE. I always assume that everyone sees Kiss in the true sense, the way I always see them, as being equal parts Gene and Paul, and not without the Ace/Peter elixir factoring in to complete the whole. I could do without Paul in his regard: 1. Wanting to do disco. 2. Wanting to do pop-rock. 3. Wanting to be Bon Jovi. 4. Paul's lame fucking anthems. 5. Paul's fucking terrible ballads 6. Horrible songs on Animalize, Asylum, CN, HITS, PC and SB. 7. His stage raps, 8. Paul sucking on his own finger all time and grabbing his ass. 9. His belief that everything he writes is gold. 10. Paul thinking he knows what's best for KISS and that he is a producer. Take all that away and Paul is awesome.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Jan 24, 2012 0:01:54 GMT -5
1. Wouldn't mind. 2. Love Unmasked. 3. Hate Crazy Nights. 4. Some are good, some are bad. 5. FOREVER IS AWESOME, SHUT YOUR HOLE. 6. Horrible albums, save SB, but then again Gene and the others were limping pretty bad as well. 7. Hate 'em. 8. Hate it. 9. Hate that. 10. I'd rather have him in charge than Gene to be honest.
And after all of that, Paul's still awesome.
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 24, 2012 0:12:26 GMT -5
1. Wouldn't mind. 2. Love Unmasked. 3. Hate Crazy Nights. 4. Some are good, some are bad. 5. FOREVER IS AWESOME, SHUT YOUR HOLE. 6. Horrible albums, save SB, but then again Gene and the others were limping pretty bad as well. 7. Hate 'em. 8. Hate it. 9. Hate that. 10. I'd rather have him in charge than Gene to be honest. And after all of that, Paul's still awesome. Forever is awesome - really? I may ban you just because of that.
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Post by Anomacunt the Excellent on Jan 24, 2012 0:14:02 GMT -5
Like it better than most of the other ballads in the 80's, that being said, I'm not a ballad guy. But I Still Love You, A Million To One, and Forever are pretty damn good.
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Post by dute on Jan 24, 2012 0:25:05 GMT -5
Like it better than most of the other ballads in the 80's, that being said, I'm not a ballad guy. But I Still Love You, A Million To One, and Forever are pretty damn good. I love Paul's ballads. Forever is a beautiful song.
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 24, 2012 0:27:13 GMT -5
Ugh - can't stand Forever.
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 24, 2012 3:09:49 GMT -5
Never liked forever but it's infinitely more listenable than that fucking awful ballad on Revenge. What a piece of shit that is. Paul started to go downhill after '78. I mean fuck, look at his solo album, Hold Me Touch Me?!?! Seriously? Barry Manilow wouldn't have fucking sung that. Love Paul's tunes on Dynasty and Unmasked though so axe what I just said about him going downhill after '78, LOL Though I don't think he was ever as good again after '75 or so. Got To Choose, Black Diamond, 100,000 Years those are Paul's greatest tunes IMO. If I were to come up with a top ten most awful Kiss songs list they'd all be Paul tunes. As bad as some of Gene's dross is it can't compete with Read My Body, X In Sex, that fucking hysterically awful vocal in Odyssey, the castrato experiment on Crazy Nights, etc. I'd take an albums worth of Boomerangs over an EP of My Ways. And of all the originals latest solo releases only Paul could manage to come up with a piece of shit that makes you rethink Asshole. Exactly!
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Post by dute on Jan 24, 2012 3:38:48 GMT -5
Never liked forever but it's infinitely more listenable t han that fucking awful ballad on Revenge. What a piece of shit that is. Paul started to go downhill after '78. I mean fuck, look at his solo album, Hold Me Touch Me?!?! Seriously? Barry Manilow wouldn't have fucking sung that. Love Paul's tunes on Dynasty and Unmasked though so axe what I just said about him going downhill after '78, LOL Though I don't think he was ever as good again after '75 or so. Got To Choose, Black Diamond, 100,000 Years those are Paul's greatest tunes IMO. If I were to come up with a top ten most awful Kiss songs list they'd all be Paul tunes. As bad as some of Gene's dross is it can't compete with Read My Body, X In Sex, that fucking hysterically awful vocal in Odyssey, the castrato experiment on Crazy Nights, etc. I'd take an albums worth of Boomerangs over an EP of My Ways. And of all the originals latest solo releases only Paul could manage to come up with a piece of shit that makes you rethink Asshole. I love that track. As For Hold Me, Touch Me - that's probably the most sappiest sounding tune from his ballads, but fit in well with his 'Lover' persona at the time.
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 24, 2012 4:54:40 GMT -5
Never liked forever but it's infinitely more listenable t han that fucking awful ballad on Revenge. What a piece of shit that is. Paul started to go downhill after '78. I mean fuck, look at his solo album, Hold Me Touch Me?!?! Seriously? Barry Manilow wouldn't have fucking sung that. Love Paul's tunes on Dynasty and Unmasked though so axe what I just said about him going downhill after '78, LOL Though I don't think he was ever as good again after '75 or so. Got To Choose, Black Diamond, 100,000 Years those are Paul's greatest tunes IMO. If I were to come up with a top ten most awful Kiss songs list they'd all be Paul tunes. As bad as some of Gene's dross is it can't compete with Read My Body, X In Sex, that fucking hysterically awful vocal in Odyssey, the castrato experiment on Crazy Nights, etc. I'd take an albums worth of Boomerangs over an EP of My Ways. And of all the originals latest solo releases only Paul could manage to come up with a piece of shit that makes you rethink Asshole. I love that track. As For Hold Me, Touch Me - that's probably the most sappiest sounding tune from his ballads, but fit in well with his 'Lover' persona at the time. He went too far on that song when it comes to being a "lover".
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Post by dute on Jan 24, 2012 5:03:57 GMT -5
I love that track. As For Hold Me, Touch Me - that's probably the most sappiest sounding tune from his ballads, but fit in well with his 'Lover' persona at the time. He went too far on that song when it comes to being a "lover". I'm sure the ladies loved it at the time.
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 24, 2012 5:06:26 GMT -5
He went too far on that song when it comes to being a "lover". I'm sure the ladies loved it at the time. I think it skews more to men.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2012 17:17:55 GMT -5
Paul's stuff is way better than Gene's. I don't care for Gene's singing or his songs. The only Gene song I really care for is I Love It Loud. The rest is crap. Paul's songs are the only KISS songs I really like.
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Post by dute on Jan 27, 2012 21:03:31 GMT -5
I completely disagree. I always thought Gene was the better, more varied songwriter. A song like Journey Of 1,000 Years could never have come from Paul, he couldn't begin to think that way as a songwriter. Gotta agree with this.
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Post by Hey Man on Jan 28, 2012 15:27:59 GMT -5
Not to dismiss Paul as a songwriter. Songs like Got To Choose and Black Diamond are in my top 5. For me personally, the years when Gene wasn't even trying, Animalize-HITS, he was still writing consistently better material than Paul was coming up with using his scores of professional songwriters and supposedly singlehandedly steering the ship. I know not too many agree with that opinion though. You are correct sir. Gene's phoned in songs, were better than Paul Stanley trying his hardest to have a hit.
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Post by dute on Jan 28, 2012 20:44:36 GMT -5
Not to dismiss Paul as a songwriter. Songs like Got To Choose and Black Diamond are in my top 5. For me personally, the years when Gene wasn't even trying, Animalize-HITS, he was still writing consistently better material than Paul was coming up with using his scores of professional songwriters and supposedly singlehandedly steering the ship. I know not too many agree with that opinion though. Neither am I. Paul has written some amazing songs over his time. Gene just has more variety with subject and style.
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