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Post by Hey Man on Nov 17, 2023 16:43:21 GMT -5
Yes it's all very weird. Hope he's well too but who knows soon you might even be blamed for Ascot's disappearance until they discover a body. All kidding aside take us through the process that led to your last 'so let's Shock the people' FAQ return such as did Julian lay out any ground rules. Describe the dialogue you two had prior as best you're able to. I had to go look back at my emails with Julian. So I got banned the last time for some attacks I posted in all things - a Will Smith thread per the Oscar slap incident and I contacted Julian to say what the fuck more or less as we have gotten along pretty much, but this was his decision. I crossed a line with personal attacks. A few months later I emailed Julian again requesting to come back - he declined at the time, but said he may reconsider down the road. 7 months later and during Christmas, I wished him well and asked again if he we would reconsider and he said OK, he will let me back. There were no ground rules, but just warned me that there will be those who will want to bait me and to not take the bait. That's it. Since I was reading a lot of people saying they missed me on the forum, which is why I got so many welcome back posts even from people who I often fought with - Joma and I thought it would be funny to do a take of KISS showing up on the Grammy's to shock the people that I was coming back to the FAQ.
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Post by kissoff on Nov 17, 2023 20:24:59 GMT -5
Yes it's all very weird. Hope he's well too but who knows soon you might even be blamed for Ascot's disappearance until they discover a body. All kidding aside take us through the process that led to your last 'so let's Shock the people' FAQ return such as did Julian lay out any ground rules. Describe the dialogue you two had prior as best you're able to. I had to go look back at my emails with Julian. So I got banned the last time for some attacks I posted in all things - a Will Smith thread per the Oscar slap incident and I contacted Julian to say what the fuck more or less as we have gotten along pretty much, but this was his decision. I crossed a line with personal attacks. A few months later I emailed Julian again requesting to come back - he declined at the time, but said he may reconsider down the road. 7 months later and during Christmas, I wished him well and asked again if he we would reconsider and he said OK, he will let me back. There were no ground rules, but just warned me that there will be those who will want to bait me and to not take the bait. That's it. Since I was reading a lot of people saying they missed me on the forum, which is why I got so many welcome back posts even from people who I often fought with - Joma and I thought it would be funny to do a take of KISS showing up on the Grammy's to shock the people that I was coming back to the FAQ. Yes it was very cool, definitely an exciting time, I thought great he's going to slowly put people back in their place. Speaking of which it seemed you sorta left TKE alone your last go around whereas prior you used to clobber him over the head which was quite funny and enjoyable. What would you say happened there basically. Low hanging fruit care not?
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 17, 2023 20:29:10 GMT -5
I had to go look back at my emails with Julian. So I got banned the last time for some attacks I posted in all things - a Will Smith thread per the Oscar slap incident and I contacted Julian to say what the fuck more or less as we have gotten along pretty much, but this was his decision. I crossed a line with personal attacks. A few months later I emailed Julian again requesting to come back - he declined at the time, but said he may reconsider down the road. 7 months later and during Christmas, I wished him well and asked again if he we would reconsider and he said OK, he will let me back. There were no ground rules, but just warned me that there will be those who will want to bait me and to not take the bait. That's it. Since I was reading a lot of people saying they missed me on the forum, which is why I got so many welcome back posts even from people who I often fought with - Joma and I thought it would be funny to do a take of KISS showing up on the Grammy's to shock the people that I was coming back to the FAQ. Yes it was very cool, definitely an exciting time, I thought great he's going to slowly put people back in their place. Speaking of which it seemed you sorta left TKE alone your last go around whereas prior you used to clobber him over the head which was quite funny and enjoyable. What would you say happened there basically. Low hanging fruit care not? Honestly TKE kind of won me over. Not that he wasn't still posting some kooky shit, but he woke up to the fact that Tommy and Eric were just pretending to be Ace and Peter, so his posts attacking Kold Gin were entertaining.
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Post by kissoff on Nov 17, 2023 20:48:24 GMT -5
Yes it was very cool, definitely an exciting time, I thought great he's going to slowly put people back in their place. Speaking of which it seemed you sorta left TKE alone your last go around whereas prior you used to clobber him over the head which was quite funny and enjoyable. What would you say happened there basically. Low hanging fruit care not? Honestly TKE kind of won me over. Not that he wasn't still posting some kooky shit, but he woke up to the fact that Tommy and Eric were just pretending to be Ace and Peter, so his posts attacking Kold Gin were entertaining. I'm sure you got some interesting PM's from people over the years, are there some in particular that you recall the content of that were especially memorable. Other than FU,no no no FU some more.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 17, 2023 21:15:07 GMT -5
Honestly TKE kind of won me over. Not that he wasn't still posting some kooky shit, but he woke up to the fact that Tommy and Eric were just pretending to be Ace and Peter, so his posts attacking Kold Gin were entertaining. I'm sure you got some interesting PM's from people over the years, are there some in particular that you recall the content of that were especially memorable. Other than FU,no no no FU some more. Not really anything memorable and yes there were a lot of those FU type discussions over the years. I will say that there have been many occasions similar to the Ascot thing where once we talked privately without the rallying of other members involved in some heated back and forth, we actually got along and understood each other better in PM. Slow and I had a few of those type of PM's, but then he went back to the complaining on the forum.
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Post by kissoff on Nov 17, 2023 22:14:19 GMT -5
I'm sure you got some interesting PM's from people over the years, are there some in particular that you recall the content of that were especially memorable. Other than FU,no no no FU some more. Not really anything memorable and yes there were a lot of those FU type discussions over the years. I will say that there have been many occasions similar to the Ascot thing where once we talked privately without the rallying of other members involved in some heated back and forth, we actually got along and understood each other better in PM. Slow and I had a few of those type of PM's, but then he went back to the complaining on the forum. Who would you say on the FAQ, FW or elsewhere provided you the biggest challenge to debate with.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 17, 2023 22:50:46 GMT -5
Not really anything memorable and yes there were a lot of those FU type discussions over the years. I will say that there have been many occasions similar to the Ascot thing where once we talked privately without the rallying of other members involved in some heated back and forth, we actually got along and understood each other better in PM. Slow and I had a few of those type of PM's, but then he went back to the complaining on the forum. Who would you say on the FAQ, FW or elsewhere provided you the biggest challenge to debate with. I would say the biggest challenge was probably Blackwell when we had our debates on the FAQ and even the first go around here when we had our falling out - even if we disagreed, he still provided an intelligent and well thought out argument. Most of the heated back and forths on the FAQ are often from a place of idiocy or a subjective or personal view over an objective view, so they were just more frustrating for me as opposed to challenging. Now sure I probably should have just moved on and let them be morons instead of arguing for 5 pages, but it became a case of amazement for me on how someone could be so stupid. It would often feel like I was debating the obvious with a stubborn mule - who just wouldn't accept reality. Having said that, there are some great posters on the FAQ that know their shit and are good people on top of that. I would say Vandelay is one of them, but we all know that I am Vandelay.
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Post by kissoff on Nov 17, 2023 23:37:55 GMT -5
Who would you say on the FAQ, FW or elsewhere provided you the biggest challenge to debate with. I would say the biggest challenge was probably Blackwell when we had our debates on the FAQ and even the first go around here when we had our falling out - even if we disagreed, he still provided an intelligent and well thought out argument. Most of the heated back and forths on the FAQ are often from a place of idiocy or a subjective or personal view over an objective view, so they were just more frustrating for me as opposed to challenging. Now sure I probably should have just moved on and let them be morons instead of arguing for 5 pages, but it became a case of amazement for me on how someone could be so stupid. It would often feel like I was debating the obvious with a stubborn mule - who just wouldn't accept reality. Having said that, there are some great posters on the FAQ that know their shit and are good people on top of that. I would say Vandelay is one of them, but we all know that I am Vandelay. Ya right you're being Vandelay was some funny shit. Which leads me to this..You don't seem to be drawn in at all by conspiracy theories so why is it that MSM suits you just fine.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 17, 2023 23:49:12 GMT -5
Ya right you're being Vandelay was some funny shit. Which leads me to this..You don't seem to be drawn in at all by conspiracy theories so why is it that MSM suits you just fine. I am not sure exactly what you mean here.
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Post by kissoff on Nov 18, 2023 0:08:09 GMT -5
Ya right you're being Vandelay was some funny shit. Which leads me to this..You don't seem to be drawn in at all by conspiracy theories so why is it that MSM suits you just fine. I am not sure exactly what you mean here. Let's just skip the question cuz I can't seem to formulate it correctly in my head how to reask it properly.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 18, 2023 0:32:16 GMT -5
I am not sure exactly what you mean here. Let's just skip the question cuz I can't seem to formulate it correctly in my head how to reask it properly. I get the gist of what you saying - I just wanted you to expand. That I haven't been one on the FAQ to go for the conspiracy theories that have been mentioned from time to time when political discussions happen, so does that I mean that I just believe whatever the MSM says? Is that it?
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Post by kissoff on Nov 18, 2023 19:46:03 GMT -5
Let's just skip the question cuz I can't seem to formulate it correctly in my head how to reask it properly. I get the gist of what you saying - I just wanted you to expand. That I haven't been one on the FAQ to go for the conspiracy theories that have been mentioned from time to time when political discussions happen, so does that I mean that I just believe whatever the MSM says? Is that it? No I don't believe you to be a Homer. IMO MTS has continued to make a fool of himself using Grand Classic avatars as if he thinks he has some special influence over at the FAQ,to your credit I've never seen you comment about it or really acknowledge it, being a veteran of forums as you are, would you agree MTS is completely making fool of himself at this point and might as well stay off the FAQ or what are your thoughts about his uncreative moves in this regard. I flat out just think the guy SUCKS ASS whatever avatar he uses.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 18, 2023 20:33:50 GMT -5
I get the gist of what you saying - I just wanted you to expand. That I haven't been one on the FAQ to go for the conspiracy theories that have been mentioned from time to time when political discussions happen, so does that I mean that I just believe whatever the MSM says? Is that it? No I don't believe you to be a Homer. IMO MTS has continued to make a fool of himself using Grand Classic avatars as if he thinks he has some special influence over at the FAQ,to your credit I've never seen you comment about it or really acknowledge it, being a veteran of forums as you are, would you agree MTS is completely making fool of himself at this point and might as well stay off the FAQ or what are your thoughts about his uncreative moves in this regard. I flat out just think the guy SUCKS ASS whatever avatar he uses. Yes, Much Too Soon has mostly made a fool of himself. He even used my Ace avatar at one point like I use here. MTS' claims about other members on the FAQ that he is convinced are actually me with back up accounts is the most laughable, because many are long time members like Vandelay. Like did you actually think all this time since 2006 that I was posting as Hey Man AND Vandelay. It is just nothing more than simple stupidity on his part. Probably the worst though was when he was constantly posting this shit that got on everyone's nerves and he had to get a warning to stop.
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Post by Joma on Nov 18, 2023 21:08:26 GMT -5
I don't even get what that was supposed to mean. Does whoever the fuck that dude is always say 'what' or something? What's the significance?
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 18, 2023 21:12:17 GMT -5
I don't even get what that was supposed to mean. Does whoever the fuck that dude is always say 'what' or something? What's the significance? I guess. I couldn't really tell you. I was never into men's soap operas. I came across this on YT. I still don't get it.
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Post by Joma on Nov 19, 2023 2:06:09 GMT -5
I don't even get what that was supposed to mean. Does whoever the fuck that dude is always say 'what' or something? What's the significance? I guess. I couldn't really tell you. I was never into men's soap operas. I came across this on YT. I still don't get it. It was a struggle to watch up to a minute of that... 'What' is a pretty kick ass catch phrase, I guess... Lame.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 19, 2023 11:34:56 GMT -5
I guess. I couldn't really tell you. I was never into men's soap operas. I came across this on YT. I still don't get it. It was a struggle to watch up to a minute of that... 'What' is a pretty kick ass catch phrase, I guess... Lame. It is a good thing we don't get it. It's wrasslin'. Among the lowest form of entertainment.
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Post by kissoff on Nov 20, 2023 0:11:52 GMT -5
No I don't believe you to be a Homer. IMO MTS has continued to make a fool of himself using Grand Classic avatars as if he thinks he has some special influence over at the FAQ,to your credit I've never seen you comment about it or really acknowledge it, being a veteran of forums as you are, would you agree MTS is completely making fool of himself at this point and might as well stay off the FAQ or what are your thoughts about his uncreative moves in this regard. I flat out just think the guy SUCKS ASS whatever avatar he uses. Yes, Much Too Soon has mostly made a fool of himself. He even used my Ace avatar at one point like I use here. MTS' claims about other members on the FAQ that he is convinced are actually me with back up accounts is the most laughable, because many are long time members like Vandelay. Like did you actually think all this time since 2006 that I was posting as Hey Man AND Vandelay. It is just nothing more than simple stupidity on his part. Probably the worst though was when he was constantly posting this shit that got on everyone's nerves and he had to get a warning to stop. I asked this question earlier in another thread but obviously you were stuck in the Jollibee's drive thru and couldn't answer but in your opinion does Julian generate income via the FAQ, most of the ads I see on my end are local.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 20, 2023 0:16:48 GMT -5
I am sure he makes some small level of money with ads and with KISSFAQ overall. He can also promote his books, which brings in money, etc. Forums are dead for the most part, so if he was gonna sell - it should have been before all the Facebook groups took over and other social media.
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Post by kissoff on Nov 20, 2023 0:27:11 GMT -5
I am sure he makes some small level of money with ads and with KISSFAQ overall. He can also promote his books, which brings in money, etc. Forums are dead for the most part, so if he was gonna sell - it should have been before all the Facebook groups took over and other social media. Why the fuck do you think Julian didn't ban SA due to his last Ace thread and do you think Rising Force feels unsupported due to Julian's lack of action over it. I mean RF seemed to indicate he expected SA to be shown the door. What do you think happened there.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 20, 2023 0:37:14 GMT -5
I am sure he makes some small level of money with ads and with KISSFAQ overall. He can also promote his books, which brings in money, etc. Forums are dead for the most part, so if he was gonna sell - it should have been before all the Facebook groups took over and other social media. Why the fuck do you think Julian didn't ban SA due to his last Ace thread and do you think Rising Force feels unsupported due to Julian's lack of action over it. I mean RF seemed to indicate he expected SA to be shown the door. What do you think happened there. I can't really speak to that specifically. I am sure there were moments where RF could have just said fuck it and banned SA as he clearly doesn't like him, but Julian probably has final say. Likewise if RF was running the joint, I would still be there. Not that I didn't get along with Julian - I did for the most part, but I don't think I was on RF's shit list at all to potentially want to ban.
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Post by kissoff on Nov 20, 2023 0:49:41 GMT -5
Why the fuck do you think Julian didn't ban SA due to his last Ace thread and do you think Rising Force feels unsupported due to Julian's lack of action over it. I mean RF seemed to indicate he expected SA to be shown the door. What do you think happened there. I can't really speak to that specifically. I am sure there were moments where RF could have just said fuck it and banned SA as he clearly doesn't like him, but Julian probably has final say. Likewise if RF was running the joint, I would still be there. Not that I didn't get along with Julian - I did for the most part, but I don't think I was on RF's shit list at all to potentially want to ban. What kind of kid you were you in jr high & high school did you ever run for student body president otherwise please share some trouble making shenanigans you were surely involved in.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 20, 2023 1:02:03 GMT -5
I can't really speak to that specifically. I am sure there were moments where RF could have just said fuck it and banned SA as he clearly doesn't like him, but Julian probably has final say. Likewise if RF was running the joint, I would still be there. Not that I didn't get along with Julian - I did for the most part, but I don't think I was on RF's shit list at all to potentially want to ban. What kind of kid you were you jr high & high school did you ever run for student body president otherwise please share some trouble making shenanigans you were surely involved in. Sorry to disappoint, but I was more the class clown type and while I didn't get into any serious trouble - my parents were called from time to time over my attitude and what they deemed a disruptive personality with my joking around. So I guess much hasn't changed if I am getting banned from forums. I grew up in a wealthy family, so I concede that it gave me a bit of an ego. One time I was told to stay after school for detention - I literally responded by saying you are not my parents and you can't tell me what to do. You are just some guy being paid to babysit me during the school day. Has problems with authority appeared in my school reports a lot.
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Post by kissoff on Nov 20, 2023 22:43:46 GMT -5
What kind of kid you were you jr high & high school did you ever run for student body president otherwise please share some trouble making shenanigans you were surely involved in. Sorry to disappoint, but I was more the class clown type and while I didn't get into any serious trouble - my parents were called from time to time over my attitude and what they deemed a disruptive personality with my joking around. So I guess much hasn't changed if I am getting banned from forums. I grew up in a wealthy family, so I concede that it gave me a bit of an ego. One time I was told to stay after school for detention - I literally responded by saying you are not my parents and you can't tell me what to do. You are just some guy being paid to babysit me during the school day. Has problems with authority appeared in my school reports a lot. Yes very disappointing indeed. Big letdown. When your classmate showed you the KISS Killers album what were your immediate thoughts besides how can I rid him of this without him knowing.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 20, 2023 22:48:47 GMT -5
Sorry to disappoint, but I was more the class clown type and while I didn't get into any serious trouble - my parents were called from time to time over my attitude and what they deemed a disruptive personality with my joking around. So I guess much hasn't changed if I am getting banned from forums. I grew up in a wealthy family, so I concede that it gave me a bit of an ego. One time I was told to stay after school for detention - I literally responded by saying you are not my parents and you can't tell me what to do. You are just some guy being paid to babysit me during the school day. Has problems with authority appeared in my school reports a lot. Yes very disappointing indeed. Big letdown. When your classmate showed you the KISS Killers album what were your immediate thoughts besides how can I rid him of this without him knowing. Ya, sorry I didn't drink or do drug back then for example - so I wasn't doing all sorts crazy things or getting into legal trouble. Just making jokes and destroying people with words like I do now. I think I probably did want to try to steal it, but once I realized it was mostly songs I already had with 4 new Paul songs - my interest waned. I never actually bought it. What were you like in school?
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Post by kissoff on Nov 20, 2023 23:00:18 GMT -5
Yes very disappointing indeed. Big letdown. When your classmate showed you the KISS Killers album what were your immediate thoughts besides how can I rid him of this without him knowing. Ya, sorry I didn't drink or do drug back then for example - so I wasn't doing all sorts crazy things or getting into legal trouble. Just making jokes and destroying people with words like I do now. I think I probably did want to try to steal it, but once I realized it was mostly songs I already had with 4 new Paul songs - my interest waned. I never actually bought it. What were you like in school? Me, I was always looking for an angle, whether it was scoring alcohol or not having to study so hard. I greatly enjoyed pulling off little capers and was quite adept at it.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 22, 2023 14:56:14 GMT -5
Ya, sorry I didn't drink or do drug back then for example - so I wasn't doing all sorts crazy things or getting into legal trouble. Just making jokes and destroying people with words like I do now. I think I probably did want to try to steal it, but once I realized it was mostly songs I already had with 4 new Paul songs - my interest waned. I never actually bought it. What were you like in school? Me, I was always looking for an angle, whether it was scoring alcohol or not having to study so hard. I greatly enjoyed pulling off little capers and was quite adept at it. Capers eh? Did you ever get into any serious trouble?
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Post by kissoff on Nov 22, 2023 14:59:29 GMT -5
Me, I was always looking for an angle, whether it was scoring alcohol or not having to study so hard. I greatly enjoyed pulling off little capers and was quite adept at it. Capers eh? Did you ever get into any serious trouble? I've done jailtime ya but not from the capers.
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Post by Hey Man on Nov 22, 2023 15:12:42 GMT -5
Capers eh? Did you ever get into any serious trouble? I've done jailtime ya but not from the capers. If you feel like sharing - please do. If not I understand.
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Post by kissoff on Nov 22, 2023 15:57:00 GMT -5
I've done jailtime ya but not from the capers. If you feel like sharing - please do. If not I understand. Well the whole thing was quite the freaking Odyssey from start to finish and I could never do it justice typing it as a post but let's just say jail was a breeze and not at all what I envisioned. Was like a vacation almost. No lie.
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